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Author: The Original Linux Fan
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] running with separate / and /usr
I have done my own LFS system before.  It was very
instructive.  But, the whole thing is very, very time
consuming, right?  The very idea of a distro, often is
to benefit from other's work, and to return some back.
That's how the Linux kernel came to be in the first
place: Linus isn't the only one working on it.

Marc's ideas, to me, seem much cleaner.  But not
everybody has enough memory for that, for what-
ever reason.  For me it is cost.  I'm retired and on
a very tight fixed-income.  So, some of these so-
called "choices," take me out of the loop, and I
have to find another distro.  That is why I am here,
and not on Debian.  I tried Gentoo, but that didn't
work out the best either, because of the tedium.
But I love source-based distros, and used to be a
developer on Source-Mage, when I was working and
had free-time, but had to let it go when the economy
crashed and I lost my job.

So, personal finance drives a lot of these choices.
Most of us can't afford Enterprise Solutions on a
Personal Budget.

My Home-Lab includes a Dell M1000E, which I have
had powered up and running, but the power is a
huge deal: it uses my welding outlet!

There aren't infinite resources in any system.  It all
has to be balanced, whether on a Watch, rpi, or a
multi-million dollar Beowulf Cluster, or chatGPT.


On 1/17/23 01:27, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 16/01/2023 à 22:24, The Original Linux Fan via Dng a écrit :
>> _User choice_ is a huge reason to allow /usr to be on
>> a mountable partition.  Many of us have always
>> operated that way, and consider it to be the way
>> to go, exactly like not running SystemD
>    And why not preserve the choice of the admin to make /lib, /sbin,
> /etc and wtf mountable partitions? There should be no limit to
> liberty, should it? Actually you have this liberty, which is to not
> use a distro and devise your own FSH.
>     But if you use a Debian derivative, or whatever distro, the scope
> of the package manager is the whole filesystem, with the major
> exceptions of /home and /usr/local. And breaking it in separate
> partitions for the sake of security is an illusion, because a failure
> of one partition would cause the package manager to detect such
> inconsistencies that it would just refuse to work.
>> The only place where this is an issue, is on boot.
>> There is a simple rule that has always worked:  If
>> it is required to boot, it goes in /, otherwise it goes
>> in /usr.  It is that simple.  Keep that rule, and every-
>> body will be happy.  Break it, and it starts yet an-
>> other religious war, for no reason, and at great
>> cost.
>     The only reason I can see to use separate partitions is when you
> want to use different filesystems. For example, you can install any
> fancy filesytem of your preference on /,  but use ext4 on /boot to
> make Grub happy -- make it large because of issues with dpkg when it's
> full. Of course /home must be separate whenever possible; it contains
> a lot of junk, but also presious stuff. All the rest can be
> reinstalled with a memory stick and a network connection.
> --     Didier
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