On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 07:19:50 -0400
Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 12:09:01PM -0700, Patrick Bartek via Dng
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:01:52 +0200
> > Alessandro Vesely via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Sat 26/Jun/2021 01:10:08 +0200 Patrick Bartek Via Dng wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200
> > > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
> > > >> After I did a system upgrade, I couldn't mount an USB key any
> > > >> more, until I manually installed udevil. What happened,
> > > >> dependency changes? >
> > > > This is one of the "gotchas" that can happen when running an "in
> > > > development" version. As far as why it happen: could be a
> > > > number of things. Most of the time, it's because a dependency,
> > > > like udevil to spacefm, become mismatched version-wise. That
> > > > is, udevil has become "too old" to work with spacefm, and the
> > > > upgrade process uninstalls it. Try "full-grade" instead of just
> > > > "upgrade" to get the newer version of the dependencies when
> > > > "upgrading." In fact, this is the recommended procedure when
> > > > running an "in development" or testing version.
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards, but it didn't bring up
> > > much staff. Later on, I found that some software that I don't
> > > use very often was removed from my system. I had to install anew
> > > Inkscape and MariaDB server.
> >
> > Without knowing the particulars of how you installed Chimaera or how
> > it's configured, it's going to be difficult to diagnose your
> > problems. However, the main problem is that you are using Chimaera
> > which is still in development, and that can introduce problems.
> > Although, usually, they correct themselves when the developers do
> > the next round of "fixes."
> >
> > Did you do a clean install or upgrade from a previous version? IIRC,
> > you dist-upgraded from a Debian distro, but I've forgotten which
> > one. This can and does introduce problems even if done correctly.
> >
> > Post your /etc/apt/sources.list and anything that is
> > in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, too. If they are not set up properly,
> > that can cause problems.
> >
> > > I remember many release changes done in two steps, apt-get
> > > upgrade followed by apt-get dist-upgrade for the rest. This time
> > > it seems that the system forgot about removed packages. Is it so
> > > because chimaera is not yet released?
> >
> > How did you remove those packages?
> >
> > No. Chimaera still being Testing shouldn't be a cause..
> >
> > When using Testing, don't use apt-get upgrade, but only apt-get
> > dist-upgrade or apt full-upgrade. This is recommended when
> > running Testing instead of Stable. Upgrade by design won't install
> > major upgrades to apps, system files, etc. which can occur with
> > Testing.
>
> How does it distinguish between an upgrade and a major upgrade?
By the version number of the files already installed. So,
AnApplication-1.0.2 to AnApplication-1.0.5, apt-get upgrade will upgrade
(So, will dist-upgrade), but apt-get upgrade won't upgrade 1.0.x to
1.1.y, but dist-upgrade will. Neither will upgrade 1.x to 2.y.
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