On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 02:07:47PM -0700, Peter via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/daedalus/network-configuration
> mentions package ifupdown and commands iface, ifup and ifdown.
>
> Years ago there was advice that ip replaced ifupdown and ifconfig. Is
> ip avoided in Devuan? Nobody has had an opportunity to update the
> Configuration Guide?

THe "ip xxx" suite of commands are available and sometimes useful when
you need to manipulate network settings in unusual ways especially
with distinction between the link and network levels. But that only
does the work of ifconfig. The ifupdown program collection implements
a concept structure for the transport level configuration and would if
anything compete with tools like network-manager.

There was talk about "depricated" from the kids involved with Debiam qua
distribution whereas those tools have remained available and
maintained with Debian qua repository.

>
> The instructions for "Standard DHCP wireless setup" work with no
> difficulty.
>
> Only one SSID is used here. After booting, (1) wpagui must be started
> and (2) instructed to connect. How should those two steps be
> automated?

Yes, wpa_gui and wpa_supplicant are sometimes not in full agreement of
the configuration state; wpa_supplicant loads and keeps it's view
while running, and dumps that to disk when exiting, whereas wpa_gui
uses the disk file to keep its state. I have had an easier time using
wpa_cli instead of wpa_gui although its man page is daunting (and its
"commands" are verbose). I think "man wpa_cli | _network" would give a
sufficient depth of details.

The key trick is to make wpa_supplicant reload configuration from the
file after you have enabled the network with wpa_gui.
----
    # pkill -HUP wpa_supplicant
or
    $ wpa_cli reconfigure
----

I think that's sufficient, but perhaps you must also get that
configuration file into initrd so as to be used if the interface is
set up pre-pivot (i.e with allow_hotplug).

Let me add as caveat that I don't have insight in the actual code, but
only from using it and reading its man pages (a fair few times).

Ralph.

>

> Thx,                  ... P.

>

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