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Author: Hendrik Boom
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree.


It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all packages whose name
ended in "nonfree".

But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in "nonfree" and try to remove
packages that have the same name as those files?

-- hendrik

>
> On both machines it looks pretty much identical. On both machines, it
> mentions the following:
>
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
> required:
> amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
>
>
> This makes me think they were the programs that needed it.
> Unfortunately I'm not ME free, and I don't trust intel (or amd) so I
> worry that this nonfree software already did it's dirty work to enable
> intel or amd spying.
>
> aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
> W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, but the
> file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not available
> Manually installed, current version 20161130-3, priority optional
> No dependencies require to install firmware-linux-nonfree
> root@dooby1:/# aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, but the
> file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not available
> i   firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (= 20161130-3)
> root@dooby1:/# vi /etc/apt/sources.list
> root@dooby1:/# history|grep nonfree
>   496  apt list firmware-misc-nonfree
>   497  history|grep firmeware-misc-nonfree
>   498  apt show firmware-misc-nonfree
>   499  apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree
>   510  apt-cache policy firmware-misc-nonfree
>   511  aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
>   512  aptitude reinstall firmware-misc-nonfree
>   515  apt show firmware-linux-nonfree
>   516  aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
>   517  aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
>   519  history|grep nonfree
> root@dooby1:/# apt remove *nonfree
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree       
> Reading state information... Done
> Note, selecting 'predictprotein-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'context-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'netpbm-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'context-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'flashplugin-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'unace-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'firmware-linux-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'unrar-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'filters-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Note, selecting 'firmware-misc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> Package 'context-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'context-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'filters-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'netpbm-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'unace-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'predictprotein-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> Package 'unrar-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
> required:
>   amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
> Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
> After this operation, 8,174 kB disk space will be freed.

>
>
>
> On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:28 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those
> > programs
> > are present.
> >
> > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing nonfree by
> > default...I have to make it part of my routine to remove them then
> > from
> > every devuan install.
> > That's a surprising find..... :(
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:21 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > I just checked another machine that is still running ascii, on
> > > which
> > > I
> > > would never have installed anything nonfree, or via wget or dpkg,
> > > and
> > > yet both firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-misc-nonfree are
> > > there.
> > >
> > > I'm going to try a fresh install of ascii and see if they're there.
> > > I
> > > suspect they won't be, which will mean one of the few programs I
> > > run
> > > on
> > > that machine would be at fault, so that should make it easier to
> > > narrow
> > > down. This is pretty odd though.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > Well I'll just remove the damn things and see if nothing blows up
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:55 +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry if we're getting off track here but I honestly don't
> > > > > > recall
> > > > > > installing anything nonfree on this machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > We may never get to the bottom of this mystery :)
> > > >
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