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Author: 'smee
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Subject: Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!
It seems like it did that, tried to remove a number of packages that
aren't installed, but also found those intel and amd programs, and
removed those. Seems to have accomplished exactly what I needed...

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 18:36 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree.
>
> It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all packages
> whose name
> ended in "nonfree".
>
> But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in "nonfree" and try
> to remove
> packages that have the same name as those files?
>
> -- hendrik
>
> > On both machines it looks pretty much identical. On both machines,
> > it
> > mentions the following:
> >
> > The following packages were automatically installed and are no
> > longer
> > required:
> > amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
> >
> >
> > This makes me think they were the programs that needed it.
> > Unfortunately I'm not ME free, and I don't trust intel (or amd) so
> > I
> > worry that this nonfree software already did it's dirty work to
> > enable
> > intel or amd spying.
> >
> > aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
> > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, but
> > the
> > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not available
> > Manually installed, current version 20161130-3, priority optional
> > No dependencies require to install firmware-linux-nonfree
> > root@dooby1:/# aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, but
> > the
> > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not available
> > i   firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (=
> > 20161130-3)
> > root@dooby1:/# vi /etc/apt/sources.list
> > root@dooby1:/# history|grep nonfree
> >   496  apt list firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   497  history|grep firmeware-misc-nonfree
> >   498  apt show firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   499  apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   510  apt-cache policy firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   511  aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   512  aptitude reinstall firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   515  apt show firmware-linux-nonfree
> >   516  aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
> >   517  aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> >   519  history|grep nonfree
> > root@dooby1:/# apt remove *nonfree
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree       
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Note, selecting 'predictprotein-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'context-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'netpbm-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'context-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'flashplugin-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'unace-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'firmware-linux-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'unrar-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'filters-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Note, selecting 'firmware-misc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > Package 'context-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'context-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'filters-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'netpbm-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'unace-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'predictprotein-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > Package 'unrar-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > The following packages were automatically installed and are no
> > longer
> > required:
> >   amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
> > Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree
> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
> > After this operation, 8,174 kB disk space will be freed.

> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:28 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those
> > > programs
> > > are present.
> > >
> > > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing nonfree
> > > by
> > > default...I have to make it part of my routine to remove them
> > > then
> > > from
> > > every devuan install.
> > > That's a surprising find..... :(
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:21 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > I just checked another machine that is still running ascii, on
> > > > which
> > > > I
> > > > would never have installed anything nonfree, or via wget or
> > > > dpkg,
> > > > and
> > > > yet both firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-misc-nonfree are
> > > > there.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to try a fresh install of ascii and see if they're
> > > > there.
> > > > I
> > > > suspect they won't be, which will mean one of the few programs
> > > > I
> > > > run
> > > > on
> > > > that machine would be at fault, so that should make it easier
> > > > to
> > > > narrow
> > > > down. This is pretty odd though.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > > Well I'll just remove the damn things and see if nothing
> > > > > blows up
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:55 +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > > > > > Sorry if we're getting off track here but I honestly
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > recall
> > > > > > > installing anything nonfree on this machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We may never get to the bottom of this mystery :)
> > > > >
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