Il giorno Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:40:32 +0200
Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@???> ha scritto:

> On Wednesday 21 June 2017 at 23:58:26, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> > On 21/06/2017 at 18:06, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I do seem to hear a lot of the same sentiment as the pro-code guys in
> > > this discussion. And I know where that goes. We didn't dumb anything
> > > down, we just got people to participate. And everything was better for
> > > it.
> >
> > I take you read the ignorant Guru's post at
> > https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
> > Please, would you point us out where are Gnome devs getting "people to
> > participate"?
>
> I think you've mis-read the wording of Bruce's posting - he's not saying
> that the Gnome people have taken the attitude "We didn't dumb anything
> down, we just got people to participate. And everything was better for it."
>
> He's saying that about his own campaign to remove the Morse requirement
> from the Ham Radio qualifications.

I did get that. But I also understood Bruce was taking that campaign as a
similitude to what has been happening in the Gnome3 field.

> The point is that eliminating an increasingly-obscure and pointless
> requirement from an entry-level exam to a controlled field of activity
> resulted in a significantly greater participation in that activity, once
> people didn't have to jump through that pointless hoop, just to be allowed
> in to "the club".

All right, I'll rephrase my question: "what was 'obscure and pointless' in
Gnome's support of third party themes and extensions and popular, consolidated
features such as status icons?" Gnome did not made things simpler in order to
allow more people on the van, they did the opposite: they kept braking APIs
and removing time-proven, popular features in order to make it harder to
people to participate, they took several decisions with the objective of
preventing people to change the way they wanted Gnome to behave and look
like: "I really think that every GNOME install should have the same core look
and feel. Otherwise, what is it that we are doing in the first place?" Allan
Day, Gnome developer.

> You're quite right - the Gnome devs are not getting people to participate
> (unless they already fit the required mindset).

Which proves that Bruce's examples of what he did to eliminate Morse
Code exams does not fit what is been discussed here, Gnome's design decisions
aimed at pushing people out of the way from "their" code, "their" desktop
experience.


Bye,


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