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Author: Rainer Weikusat
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless
Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:01:04AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweikusat@???):
>> > Rick Moen <rick@???> writes:
>> > > Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweikusat@???):
>> > >
>> > >> To re-iterate this:
>> > >
>> > > [more very strangely worded, difficult-to-parse prose, seemingly alleging
>> > > that library libsystemd0 can be used to insert 'calls' into unrelated
>> > > applications -- which assertion in my view does not seem correct, if I
>> > > am parsing this odd claim correctly]
>> > >
>> > >> I honestly understand why stating this as it is causes hostile
>> > >> reactions.
>> > >
>> > > I cannot recall having said anything hostile to you,
>> >
>> > Replacing
>> >
>> >     Because of libsystemd, a systemd sub-project, technically
>> >     gratuitious calls to systemd-specific functions
>> >     can be inserted into unrelated applications. [as it provides the
>> >     required symbols]

>> >
>> > with        

>> >
>> >     libsystemd can be used to insert 'calls' into unrelated
>> >     applications

>> >
>> > won't win you any prices for objectivity.
>> >
>> > But this kind of 'discussion' is as tiresome as it is useless.
>>
>> Rainer, I did not, and do not, understand how the mere presence of
>> libsystemd0 can insert 'calls to systemd-specific functions'
>> into related applications.
>
> Once again, it is a matter of trust, not technical content. Do you
> trust the maintainers of libsystemd0 not to entangle it with unwanted
> systemd-isms? You evidently do. Rainer does not.


If you look at simplified, abstracted version of my sentence, you'll
note that it basically says

X enables Y to do Z

while Moen's sentence is

X does Z

these are obviously not identical: The subjects differ.