Jaromil, yes it's definitely not just this community. Similar behaviour has
occurred in "freedom movement"
http://bravetheworld.com/2015/05/06/kill-heroes-open-letter-libertariananarchist-community/
).

The point of these communities is individual liberty, so when individuals
act in complete contradiction to that, it stings quite a bit more.

Christina I will read what you linked. Thank you.







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https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:

>
> dears,
>
> I refrain from all instances on this discussion, as I think there are
> people that are way more affected and involved that need to speak out,
> that have untold things to say, that have more elements to say wise
> things. however I will just share with you my naive generic reflection
> here, from my own lucky position of coding away every day of my life
> and still having the privilege of loving relationships all around me
> from people who are not all the time about what I'm doing in a screen
> (and that's why I do not go to every single hacker event that comes by
> all the time, or invest all my private life into this scene)
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
>
> > To everyone: I know there has been a systematic coverup but I don't
> > have the information of what was said and by whom. What I would like
> > more than anything is to be able to show that Jake was not a "lone
> > wolf" so that the community can finally face the mess it has become.
>
> Yes. I believe you are right and also Cristina.
>
> I also believe Jake is playing a perfect scape goat role in this.
>
> and I invite you to not fall in this trap. its not one bad
> apple. actually, he may be not bad at all as far as my limited but age
> long knowledge of him goes. believe me: I'd certainly have had no
> problems in speaking out if I'd knew anything like that. But then I'm
> also stupid enough to not understand everything now.
>
> What I know is that we are not living on a different planet as all the
> rest of the world. the world at large is full of prevarications, of
> arrogance, of power games against sensitive people and against the
> strong agents of change like for instance Assange. meanwhile it seems
> that to be a "winner" one must be first at all times, making your way
> forward with elbows in the ribs of others, to conquer all attention,
> to be a rockstar at all costs. many fall victim to this deception,
> that we are not here to listen to each other, but to "finally speak
> the truth".
>
> this is not just about sexuality. for sure the history of the feminist
> movement has a lot to teach us on these regards. We are living in this
> world and there is no society that can be exempt from these
> dynamics. we are all involved, in different degrees, everyone
> is. Noone is pure.
>
> therefore I don't believe the hacker societies at large are to be
> deemed as a particular snakepit. Is the world we live in, that is full
> of different poisons. Now we are better only if we manage to talk
> about this without aggressing further each other. The journey is long
> and just like for every other society is a steep road to freedom, self
> determination and respect
>
> And power corrupts, in any case. there was never a time in which so
> much power was in the hands of hackers. it is actually a decaying
> power, as most of it is being consumed in the act of representation,
> rathern than making. that's decadence. so we are in a dangerous zone
> of our history and we better cultivate our spirit, our diversity, keep
> improving, keep listening. And avoid seeing a conspiracy just
> everywhere, consider what is the role of mere individuals and that of
> collectives. help each other understand mistakes, learn to heal each
> other and be humble.
>
> we have the same vulnerabilities as any other society. we may be
> good enough to fix some and be able to share what we learn from such a
> process. And finally, it takes no heroes to do that.
>
> in solidarity
>
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