Eric,

Thanks for bringing this back on-topic. The reason nobody will address the
points and suggestions I made to improve the distro vis a vis PureData, is
because they are afraid of the exact same reaction that Jaromil has shown
here, with his threats to "expose" my real agenda, where I live, etc. (i.e.
terrorism). That cultlike fear mentality will go away when they see that
opposing Jaromil will have no ill effects on me whatsoever, and all his
threats are completely empty. I will do that on the thread Jaromil opened
for that purpose.

In the meantime, I would like to take this opportunity to encourage everyone
to speak freely about the benefits of otherwise of PureData, and to consider
whether my suggestions to include custom PureData setups in the distro could
be useful.

Regards,

Max

On 3/25/07, Eric Tucker <hugafish8@???> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Ok I'm new to this kind of thing first mailing list I think? one never
> knows about mailing lists. I find it odd though, how one person could ruffle
> so many feathers for the first time in so many years to the point of where
> you guys get so over defensive about it. I agree that a continued rant about
> the same topic is non-productive, and yes he could have refrained from
> making it personal. However he was making some valid points about pure dyn
> that were worth discussing, at least I discussed it with him. Believe me
> this list is just a hobby of mine and I am currently working on two major
> business project myself right now that require me to wear multiple hats
> (face to face sales, management and coding) but I still find the time to at
> least put some constructive criticism into some topics here it's real simple
> for me to leave just takes three of you to ask me and I'm out of here. The
> way I see it is that it is the overall projects loss to have any of us go.
> That being said I
> think if you think he or I are trouble makers then possibly a good litmus
> test would be if you see an acknowledged pattern of such behavior that is
> overwhelmingly not good for the whole of this mailing list then I think it
> could be appropriate to remove such individuals including myself. Again I
> will say think outside of the box and look at the bigger picture. So far I
> have yet to see any comments from anyone that seems to be of that nature.
> Maybe people are just holding back? Also what I see is a leader of this
> mailing list saying that it is not a support list but then this is the
> context of most of the post I see responses from and to. Again I am new and
> need a little more time I suppose.
>
> Eric
>
> Deepak Mishra <xask.linus@???> wrote: On 25/03/07, Maxam CPC wrote:
> >
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > I'm sorry for you if you have a "friend" like Jaromil. There's really no
> > need to try to smooth things over. 1) He's no longer in charge of this
> > project (and hasn't contributed enough to have "moral" ownership of it -
> > he's been credited too much already by his own admission). 2) His
> > behaviour
> > has been extremely aberrant (i.e. abnormal, even crazy) by most people's
> > standards, and in his own field he would seem to lack
> professionalism. So
> > just don't support him. We've got whatever he's contributed so far, and
> > he's
> > too ego-maniacal to stop working with the dev team and lose his sense of
> > "power" over an internet mailinglist. I don't know how old he is but he
> > seems a bit too, well, frustrated to be a well settled grown man. I bet
> he
> > regrets telling off his elders now LOL.
>
>
>
> 5 hours ago this guy was fighting someone else, then Jaromil came in his
> way
> and he ends up saying all this irresponsible things about him ?
> Do you even know what you are saying ?
> I think you are simply wasting this mailing list with your 10 page emails
> and way of talking, you are flaming here man.
>
> A guy takes pains to collect software, write scripts, compile kernels,
> spends days and nights, puts everything in a simple downloadable ISO image
> and put it up for free for anyone to download and this is what people like
> you can give in return to him.
> It is a shame on you for being so rude.
> It is painful when you can so easily mock other people hard work and
> creativity.
>
> Who am I? I am just a software user and a musician. "A customer". You
> stated
> > this is about "market share", but the wolf said "there is no market" and
> > pointed me to the GPL. So let's not get political if it just serves Mr
> > Wolf.
> > Let's think in terms of which software meets our needs best, at a
> personal
> > level.
>
>
> Here he calls him Mr Wolf ? Outrageous !
> Let me tell you were obliged when you could download dynebolic or any
> other
> free software, it was not your birth right, other people made it possible
> for you, to whom you must be grateful !
>
> You cannot force your opinion here, learn to be polite.
> Your comments are pure immature, irresponsible and indecent.
>
> >> So
> >> just don't support him. We've got whatever he's contributed so far, and
> he's
> >> too ego-maniacal to stop working with the dev team and lose his sense
> of
> >> "power" over an internet mailinglist.
>
> NO we are NOT going to do that ! because you say so.
>
> Please get this guy of the mailing list
>
>
> Xask wuz here
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