Hi, Ralph,

what do you think of joining forces? I'm keeping up #devuan-hurd on
irc.libera.chat. Currenly empty.

Two things to try out:
- Reverting base-files linking to /bin,/sbin,/lib: I'm already doing
that for hurd-i386 with a few soft links.
- Adding hurd-amd64 to your Devuan stuff.
- Adding support for seatd as you have patched for Xorg. Currently
neither elogind or systemd works for GNU/Hurd.
- Any other matter??
- Create a proper devuan-hurd repo...

(I'm currently patching sysvinit to be independent of if
files/libraries are installed in / or /usr)

Thanks!

On Thu, 2025-12-11 at 09:12 +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 04:53:40PM +0000, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-12-09 at 07:17 +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 02:50:41AM +0000, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > > > (At the moment, I'm not clear whether debian/hurd uses systemd:
> > >
> > > No it doesn't. Systemd is very much linux-specific.  So there is
> > > no
> > > real reason
> > > for Devuan Hurd -- just use the Debian port. I know rrq has a
> > > hurd64
> > > running for
> > > 'fun'.
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
> > I thought that was probably the case.  I wonder if the hurd-based
> > version of debian was forked before systemd was introduced. If not,
> > it
> > raises the question of how all the systemd feature-creep was worked
> > around.
> >
> > I've now downloaded the debian/hurd amd64 image and tried using it
> > in a
> > virtualbox VM. It boots, but hangs when it tries to run the DHCP
> > client
> > to configure the net interface. I'll read the documentation and see
> > if
> > I've missed something. (They suggest using kvm rather than
> > virtualbox.)
>
> Yes there is a "hurd32" VM running on the Devuan infrastructure that
> I
> set up 2 years ago, just for exploring things.
> ---
> root@hurd32:~# uname -a
> GNU hurd32 0.9 GNU-Mach 1.8+git20230526-486/Hurd-0.9 i686-AT386 GNU
> ---
>
> Perhaps it needs upgrading. I don't remember much about it, but it's
> still up. If there is interest I'm happy to drop in ssh keys and
> bring
> up net access.
>
> Ralph.
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