On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 04:53:40PM +0000, Peter Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-12-09 at 07:17 +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 02:50:41AM +0000, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > > (At the moment, I'm not clear whether debian/hurd uses systemd:
> >
> > No it doesn't. Systemd is very much linux-specific.  So there is no
> > real reason
> > for Devuan Hurd -- just use the Debian port. I know rrq has a hurd64
> > running for
> > 'fun'.
> >
> > Mark
>
> I thought that was probably the case. I wonder if the hurd-based
> version of debian was forked before systemd was introduced. If not, it
> raises the question of how all the systemd feature-creep was worked
> around.
>
> I've now downloaded the debian/hurd amd64 image and tried using it in a
> virtualbox VM. It boots, but hangs when it tries to run the DHCP client
> to configure the net interface. I'll read the documentation and see if
> I've missed something. (They suggest using kvm rather than virtualbox.)

Yes there is a "hurd32" VM running on the Devuan infrastructure that I
set up 2 years ago, just for exploring things.
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root@hurd32:~# uname -a
GNU hurd32 0.9 GNU-Mach 1.8+git20230526-486/Hurd-0.9 i686-AT386 GNU
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Perhaps it needs upgrading. I don't remember much about it, but it's
still up. If there is interest I'm happy to drop in ssh keys and bring
up net access.

Ralph.