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Author: Didier Kryn
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] /boot or not (was Re: usr-merge)
Le 20/11/2025 à 16:24, karl@??? a écrit :
> Didier:
>> Le 20/11/2025 à 13:42, g4sra via Dng a écrit :
> ...
>>>> I don't recomend making /boot a mountpoint though.
>>> Why not ?
>>     Solutions to problems always cause other problems; therefore I'm
>> against solutions to non-existing problems. So, to begin with,  what is
>> the problem with not having /boot a partition per se?
> ...
>
> In older times, with the simpler BIOSes that where available then, you
> needed things below cylinder 1024 (or something). Having /boot as the
> first partition and its size extending not beyound that limit, made
> booting after upgrade safer. I guess that argument is moot today,
> even if it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, that you are safe even if
> you occationally would plug in your disk on an old motherboard that
> you happen to have handy.
>
> A. Soo, there was formely at least one reason.
>
> B. you might have a few systems using the same /boot, eg. for testing.
> There are a lot of handy things you can argue for if you mention
> testing.
>
> C. Who cares.
> With todays disk sizes you can have /boot sufficiently large for how
> many kernels you want to have without hampering any other partitions.
> So, what is the problem, what does it matter if someone wants it for
> whatever reason. In the end, as time goes by, your disk will be too
> small for your system use, and your processor will be too slow etc.
> so you will have to replace things that don't gives you what you need.
> And, it isn't good economy to chase every perceived flaw.
>
> D, As Martin wrote, you can use a simpler fs type, eg. ext2 or even
> vfat to comply with other things, eg. booting other types of systems.
> (Since you already might have an efi partition, why not put boot there.
> I have not tested that but it could be a possibility.)


    But who has such complicated configs? I for one have stopped
multiboot long ago. Too much complication. Isn't there already enough
with UEFI?

    When I was managing Linux servers for my job, I can tell you they
wouldn't boot Windows or what else.

    This reminds me of GNOME's obsession for multiseat. Nobody uses
multiseat.

    Sorry, I accept one can find fun in playing with multiple boot,
but, for me, it's no longer fun. I did that around years 2002 - 2005 by
necessity. Nowadays it's not so expensive if you need a second hand
Windows box for something. Now my wife has a Windows laptop -- cause she
hoped it would be easier to use than Linux -- and I can use it to run my
diapositive scanner which has a proprietary software.

    One case is when you want to try a different distro on the same
computer. Then grub can perfectly find the two. I lean to think it would
be dangerous to use a shared /boot managed by the two package managers.
And grub understands ext4, no problem, we're in 2025, not in older times (~:

    Greetings.

--     Didier