On 2025-07-05 18:15:34, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 05/07/2025 à 16:49, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> > On Sat, Jul 05, 2025 at 01:17:17PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
> > ...
> > ...
> > > These days, most of the people I know who used to run their own mail domain have outsourced it. Running a mail server has become more difficult.
> > It has become more difficult.
> > The hard prt for me was to configure DNS and proper certificates
> > so that gmail would be willing to communicate with me.
> > The hard part of that was to find out what Google demanded of other people's
> > mail servers.
>
>     I use two mail providers, one of which can never reach people at gmail.
> I  use the other one for these people, but keep puting pressure on them so
> they quit gmail. There are other good reasons to quit gmail.
>
>     Also when I use my "institutional" mail provider (in2p3.fr), some mail
> agent adds a warning to the receiver, signaling it as potentially dangerous,
> while this email provider has been there at least from the 90's.
>
>     We shouldn't let these organizations force their own rules, taken out
> of their hats, on everybody.

There's the email system, and there's the gmail system, which is
deliberately becoming incompatible with the email system. Alledgedly to
prevent spam, yet most of my spam comes FROM the gmail system.

Doesn't help that lots of people use the gmail system hidden behind their
alledged email address.

So I also have my own email server, and use a different one to
communicate with people using the gmail system.

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