> > > On 2024-09-28 21:20:50, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:  
> > > >    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 8:15 PM nick <[1]nick@???>
> > > > wrote:

> > > >      It's definitely a dream system. I would still suspect it
> > > > though. My reasoning would be somewhat like this:
> > > >      1. Random lockups are not normal and shouldn't be
> > > > happening. 2. The cause has gotta be either hardware or
> > > > software. 3. If it's hardware it's gotta be one (or more)
> > > > specific component that is failing, defined by if I replaced
> > > > that component with an identical unit (of the same manufacturer
> > > > and model) the problem would go away. 4. If it's software it's
> > > > gotta be a subtle bug or driver incompatibility, sometimes
> > > > latent bugs can be triggered by unusual combinations eg. Let us
> > > > say the driver for your AMD graphics card fails when there is
> > > > 64 GB or more of RAM, just for the sake of example. 5. It could
> > > > also be a matter of settings or configuration eg if your BIOS
> > > > has configured the RAM for a higher clock than it is specced
> > > > for, although in this era of autoconfiguration this would
> > > > probably count as a driver bug. What I would do as a starting
> > > > point would be to pull out the GPU and half the RAM and use it
> > > > for a few weeks to see if problem goes away. Does it have
> > > > internal graphics or do you have an older GPU to use
> > > > temporarily? If problem recurs swap the RAM for the other half
> > > > and re-test. You can also try the GPU or RAM in another system
> > > > to see if problem moves with it. If it turns out to be the GPU
> > > > then it could be driver issue as drivers are very complex these
> > > > days. You could try earlier driver or earlier kernel (as you
> > > > are already doing) but such approach is fraught. Once you
> > > > narrow down the issue to a specific part or driver its better
> > > > to take it out of service until a new part or fix is available.
> > > > In principle you can use the same approach to diagnose CPU or
> > > > mobo issue, but you would need identical spares which could get
> > > > costly. If buying spares for testing I would highly recommend
> > > > to get a PSU first. I haven't been into system building for
> > > > many years but I have heard that PSU is responsible for a large
> > > > proportion of faults with modern rigs given how demanding they
> > > > are on the PSU. I am sure you can solve this. The nightmare is
> > > > when it happens on a laptop where you really have no option but
> > > > to try earlier kernels or removing drivers or take the laptop
> > > > out of service (has happened to me). On a PC it is much easier.
> > > > Oh yeah another thought: you might try running the dreaded
> > > > Windows on it for a while. If it still locks up you have
> > > > eliminated software except possibly for common code in AMD
> > > > display drivers.

> > > >    Given that when I had all four browsers loaded the uptime
> > > > shrank horribly and my peripheral knowledge of the
> > > >    desire of far too many companies to use javascript to do
> > > > things and report back to them what they want to know
> > > >    I am far more likely to suspect software than hardware.
> > > >    Just like right now - - I am still stuck at the dredded mz
> > > > googly's email system and right now ublock origin is
> > > >    telling me that the are some 115 domains linked in. (Now up
> > > > to 120 domains. Now up to 137!!!!)
> > > >    This kind of garbage is likely at the bottom of my issues -
> > > > - - not that hardware can't be an issue but
> > > >    when hardware is manipulated by unscrupulous companies - - -
> > > > well the results are issues for users.
> > > >    Sorry - - - I have no spare GPU and I don't know another
> > > > currently available one that has 5 outputs
> > > >    so that's a doa issue already.
> > > >    I guess what I'm looking for - - - well maybe I need to
> > > > setup that shared hosting setup that I have been thinking
> > > >    about and get mz googly off my neck. Then if I can find a
> > > > way to jail any and all browsers then I think my
> > > >    hardware issues would like shrink mightily.
> > > >    Any suggestions on how I can jail any browser?