On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4:58 AM Dan Purgert via Dng <dng@???>
wrote:

> On Aug 06, 2024, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dan Purgert via Dng <dng@???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 06, 2024, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:06 AM Dan Purgert via Dng <
> dng@???>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Aug 04, 2024, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Sat, 3 Aug 2024 12:30:27 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Greetings
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython
> > > (really
> > > > > > >don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as
> it
> > > > > > >is!!)).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C++ sucks, but can't you do it in just plain C?
> > > > >
> > > > > Most people would use c++ by virtue of approaching this with the
> > > > > "Arduino" ecosystem. As with most any other microcontroller
> though;
> > > one
> > > > > can use C (or assembly) if they so choose (but it might include
> other
> > > > > hurdles in the toolchain / environment).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well - - - I'm pretty much a programming noob and I'd rather learn 1
> (!!)
> > > > ecosystem well than dabble around in a few and use only cut and
> paste for
> > > > programming otherwise c would be the way to go. Had a long time
> mentor,
> > > > now deceased, suggest that python was a pretty good option for
> learning
> > > > programming - - that was although he himself prefered pearl.
> > >
> > > OK, what's the actual goal of your "learning programming"? Is it
> > > specifically so you can program microcontrollers? General problem
> > > solving? Something else?
> > >
> > >
> > Ja - - - its more 'something else'.
> > Commercially available systems are right bloody expensive and for even
> > thesimple ones 3 figures is called 'reasonable' - - - garbage - - -
> > its a temperature sensor, a humidity sensor, a 0-10V module and a
> > microprocessor and the programming is rather crude so when I saw the
> > prices I went - - - there must be another way of doing this.
>
>
> That's just "programming microcontrollers". Is this a one-off project,
> or are you actually trying to make a hobby out of playing with
> electronics?
>

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm - - - is that what electronics people are doing?

>
> If the latter, just learn C(++) / Arduino. You're going to have to at
> some point, so might as well just do it now.
>
> Why - - -
If that were truly my thinking I would have to be running M$ Win - - -
it is the predominant system you know.

Regards