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Author: Steve Litt
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] There seems to be some strong disagreement in Debian regarding usrmerge
altoid via Dng said on Sun, 31 Dec 2023 05:59:08 -0300

>Hello:
>
>On 12/30/23 12:25, altoid via Dng wrote:
>
>>> Linux has tens of thousands of very capable users ...
>
>Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
>
>> ... work flow be modified to let them in?
>> ... the sea change needed in how work is split up ...
>
>I don't know exactly how the maintainer work flow is designed, I
>expect that each maintainer or group of maintainers has their own way
>to get their work done, but I.may be missing something.
>
>I think that the best way (?) to get this done would be as was said
>earlier by tito, to leverage/use what we *already* have at hand.
>
>ie: find a way to leverage systemd .service files to convert them to
>initscripts.
>
>Both .service files and initscripts are, by design, standardised and
>by comparison to human language, very simple so it should be (?)
>straightforward to translate one to the other.
>
>I may be mistaken, but I really don't think Devuan will be able to
>count on package maintainers to keep initscripts up to date for *us*
>to be able to use their packages in systemd-less distributions.
>
>That task cannot be left to package maintainers basically because it
>will *not* get done, it has to be done at distribution maintainer
>level.
>
>On one hand because, maintenance wise, it is more work for them.
>At the most, some may leave them around for historical purposes but
>the scripts will not be maintained.
>
>And on the other, because systemd is *the* tool with which MS/IBM/RH
>has been infiltrating the Linux ecosystem.
>
>So we can only expect for things to get even murkier.
>eg: unreadable .service blobs anyone?
>
>Best,
>
>A.


So what is your solution?


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