On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 2:58 AM tito via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:30:56 -0600
> o1bigtenor via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 7:06 PM Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 09:24:51 +1100, terryc wrote in message
> > > <20231126092451.0cd7bc9b@???>:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:12:46 +0100
> > > > Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ..try live without it for a week, just see _whether_ you _can_
> > > > > untangle your own email from claws.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, wtf are you people doing that you suffer lock-in?
> > >
> > > ..in my case, running disks too long, and then having to recover my
> > > email from a dead Netscape Communicator suite on a dead Wintendo 95
> > > on my first pc, which worked just fine on S.u.S.E.-5.2 (and later
> > > Red Hat-5.2 thru 7.3 and Debian Sarge to Etch) where I went back
> > > to exmh with my email tree in Maildir format with formail, AFAIR.
> > >
> > > > Claws doesn't download/collect emails unless I specifically 'press a
> > > > button' each and everytime. Then it downloads and sorts.
> > >
> > > ..I usually automate those 2 with fetchmail and procmail, but I agree
> > > 'pressing a button' is wise with suspect hardware or software, avoids
> > > data loss.
> > >
> > > > > If you can't, you're locked-in, and will go down with that ship
> > > > > _whenever_ the claws ship goes down.
> > > > > Remember, good old Lennart _could_ "join" the claws team. ;o)
> > > >
> > > > Well, there other mailers so unless I loose access to Devuan packages,
> > > > there are no real problems.
> > >
> > > ..losing access to Devuan packages is no real problem, we can go
> > > sideways to e.g. Slackware and use alien to convert their claws
> > > tgz package to a trustworty .deb, or build .debs off their source.
> > > We only need people to set up those .deb build jobs.
> > >
> > > ..the bigger problem is sneaky changes in Debian packages posing as
> > > Devuan packages because we trust them too much. Can also happen
> > > upstream, e.g. in claws git repository. All email projects going
> > > down at the same time, is less likely to happen.
> > >
> > > > Even 'primitive' is still workable aka accessing "/var/mail/user on
> > > > the mail server" although the SO is going to be very annoyed wading
> > > > through headers and that html rubbish. If that happens, I'll might
> > > > have to revive my scripting skills.
> > >
> > > ..do that either way, you might come up with something new and better
> > > than we have now.
> > >
> > > > Seriously people, from the 'horror' posts regularly popping up on
> > > > this list, it seems like many of you need to get out into the sunshine
> > > > and fresh air a bit more.
> > >
> > > ..horror stories that get enough sunshine, provides good recovery
> > > recipes.
> > >
> > > > FYI, I started doing 'mail chucking' well before Linux came into
> > > > existence.
> > >
> > > ..some of us needs to keep all records for legal reasons.
> > >
> > > > A little bit on various unix boxen for $ and wrangling
> > > > two community Fidonet nodes on OS/2 for a hobby and my favourite mail
> > > > server is smtp with the alternate settings. Now, that 'program' was
> > > > about putting together the parts/services you required.
> > > >
> > > > Running sendmail, some pop and currently claws-mail suits me fine.
> > >
> > > ..see above on "either way." ;o)
> > >
> > > > Time to follow our cat into the sunshine.
> > > > terryc
> > >
> > > ..too late for that up here, it'll shine in mid January.
> > >
> > > > > > > And I think we all can name a
> > > > > > > half a dozen great softwares that later went bad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IME, they just end up being unsupported.
> > > > >
> > > > > ..the systemd die-hards still support Debian. ;o)
> > > >
> > > > Point lost on me. I thought the discussion was about great software
> > > > packages like cheaops, etc.
> > >
> > > ..great software can be destroyed very quickly by bad people,
> > > chk output of 'how-can-i-help --old |less ' for details, is a
> > > wee part of how we wound up here at Devuan and not Debian...
> > >
> > >
> > I'm finding the last dozen or so emails in this thread very informative
> > except - - - I'm feeling even more lost.
> > I'm trying to figure out how to get off the mz googly email bandwagon
> > but I'm even more unclear as to what I need to do to achieve that.
> >
> > I'll start with a question (setup related):
> > if I have a number of email addresses that are being fed into claws (sorry
> > Steve but I do need some kind of destination!!!) can I set them up for
> > different amounts of time between mail 'pickups' (ie 1 address is
> > every 1/2 hour,
> > a second is every 10 min, a third is 4 x per day, one is 1 x per week and
> > another is 2 x per month)?
> > Please advise?
>
> Hi,
>
> Why don't you install claws mail first? Then look at the Configuration Menu,
> it is all there:
>
> Create new account
> Edit accounts
> Preferences
>
> and you will see what options there are and you can setup everything
> at your liking.
> Then you can take a look at the various plugins if there is still
> some feature missing.
> After that if there is still something you feel the need to tweak
> install clawsker ( A claws mail tweaker).
> Done.
> Hope this helps.
>

Sorta helps - - - just with mission critical software - - - - well - - -
lets just say I've gotten real twitchy about installing and configuring
this kind of thing. Mistakes in configuration can make life a real
pita - - - I have lots of other things that need my attention. Don't
like to find more in my computer systems.

Thanks!