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Author: Arnt Karlsen
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Subject: Re: [DNG] random sudden stops
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 00:32:05 -0400, Steve wrote in message
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> Hendrik Boom said on Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:55:12 -0400
>
> >On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 09:16:06PM -0400, william moss via Dng
> >wrote:  
> >> On 8/25/21 8:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:    
> >> > For the past few months my home server (running an ascii
> >> > installation physically moved from another computer) has been
> >> > suddenly stopping all processing about once a month. apparently
> >> > at random.  It seems to stop instantly, leaving power on and
> >> > becoming completely responsive to ping, existing ssh connexions
> >> > and use of the physical keyboard.

> >> >
> >> > The system log, after a reboot, shows nothing unusual except of
> >> > course that there are no log entries for a shut-down.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone provide ideas about tracking this down?
> >> >
> >> > It could of course be a random rare intermittent hardware error.
> >> >
> >> > -- hendrik
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> >> I had the same problem on a work station running ASCII. Since I
> >> could access the system from another machine on the LAN and even
> >> log in, I guessed that it was Xorg. Killing X Via a remote login
> >> cleared the problem. With the use of sar and other tools, I
> >> determined it was the video card and/or NVIDIA's drivers (kernel
> >> modules). Switched back to the system board's video (AMD) and the
> >> problem went away.    

> >
> >Not running X on this machine. Just have the usual text consoles on
> >cntl-alt-F1 through F6.
> >
> >Don't have a separate video card either.
>
> The first time I read your symptom, my first thought was "I bet he has
> an nVidia card, just like I did before switching. So, acknowledging
> that you never run X and might not even have any nVidia drivers
> installed (if you do, I suggest removing them, under the
> circumstances), is your built in card an nVidia? If so, do you have a
> less than 5 year old Radeon to temporarily install while disabling
> your nVidia in BIOS? After my horrendous intermittent hangs and
> reboots of November and December 2020, I would never use any nVidia
> graphics unit with Linux again. If I somehow acquired a computer with
> built in nVidia graphics, I'd disable the built-in and use a Radeon.
> Even if I didn't use X.


..or just kill off any of nVidia's proprietary drivers and use the
nouveau driver.
Caviat: My last Radeon purchase, 9 years ago was a 2nd hand HD 4890 that
required a new powersupply with (an 8 pin plug AFAIR?), so I had to use
that box filler Nvidea GeForce GTS 250 that came along the 4890 to get
that powersupply, the 250 came bang right up on X @ 2048x1536 on the
nouveau driver. It drove FlightGear at a flyable 9 to 15fps AFAIR,
and the FlightGear developers svore it would be much faster on nVidia's
proprietary driver, which I never got working, so I went with the
4890 on radeon.

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