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Author: Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
Thanks for the alternative git repositories. I was already wondering yesterday what happend - well, "Die Gier is a Hund" or in almost english "Greed is a dog" :/

Nik


Anno domini 2020 Mon, 26 Oct 11:47:25 -0700
spiralofhope scripsit:
> TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA
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> The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for
> an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it
> does target other services).
>
> https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/
> https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md
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> I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so
> as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar software)
> nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time).
>
> Curiously there was recently a bit of drama and then a fork (also
> DMCA'd) over the problem of urgent youtube-dl pull requests being left
> unreviewed. I have no proof for this instance, but I've always
> maintained that controlled forks, or for a few thousand dollars the
> right developers, could be made to drag their feet and damage FOSS
> alternatives / etc; it might be cheaper than lawyers, FUD, lobbyists
> etc.
>
> The developer(s) are alive and its website still has a download, but
> they're a hair away from being targeted more directly.
>
> https://youtube-dl.org/
>
> Sure there have been "protest forks" already, but that alone doesn't
> mean anything unless efforts centre around one in particular.
>
> Where other people will be focused on the code, I'm concerned about the
> documentation. All of the wikis, pull requests, inline code-comments,
> issues and their conversation have been purged.
>
> (Not many people even think to clone a project's separate GitHub wiki
> repository.)
>
> But back to YouTube itself. The inability to download videos will
> have an impact in that "inconvenient" videos can't so easily be kept,
> fair-use commentated-upon, and (re-)uploaded. Everyday people wouldn't
> be able to signal boost or contribute to a Streisand effect, making
> videos (and people) easier to memoryhole.
>
>
> GitHub is obviously untrustworthy for mirrors/forks. These are likely
> to stay up longer:
>
> https://source.netsyms.com/Mirrors/l1ving_youtube-dl
> https://git.datahoarder.dev/whalehub/l1ving_youtube-dl
> https://gitea.datahoarding.agency/ZenulAbidin/youtube-dl
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