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Author: Matteo Bonicolini
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To: maemo-leste
Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 17, Issue 8
Hello,

I see the fix in maemo-leste:maemo/beowulf-devel branch. No link.c and
the problem is solved. I will work on the new branch.

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> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 18:30:21 +0200
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> Hello,
> for now I commented the line because the pointer g is not used.
>
>        /* pending_operation_group *g =
>             pending_operation_group_new(path, ofono_link_finish, priv);*/

>
> but I think it is not correct because we need to run
> g_idle_add(link_pending_execute, priv); with the new group added in
> the else case.
>
>         if (ctx->active)
>         {
>           ofono_connctx_deactivate(ctx);
>           g_idle_add(link_pending_execute, priv);
>         }
>         else
>         {
>           /* set ctx from gconf */
>         }

>
>
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>> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 20:36:51 +0200
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>> Hello,
>>
>> some know the right path to assign at line 66-67
>>          pending_operation_group *g =
>>             pending_operation_group_new(path, ofono_link_finish, priv);

>>
>> of link.c of libicd-network-ofono?
>>
>> On 12/1/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:58:37 +0100
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>>>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>>>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>>>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>>>
>>>>When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>>>
>>> It is partially true. Hildon handle the gtk app is it true but the app
>>> it is not adjusted as phone friendly. It is not easy to render app
>>> like abiword for a phone user but in my opinion may be nice to improve
>>> this features.
>>>
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>>>>    1. Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2)
>>>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:38:47 +0100
>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10,
>>>>     Issue 2)
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>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 28/11/2019 11:49, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think is better to make a port of empathy to hildonize it.
>>>>
>>>> I think that might be interesting too.
>>>>
>>>>> It is the fast way to do te app.
>>>>
>>>> One thing to keep in mind is that currently we don't package a
>>>> hildonized gtk3 yet. I know some work had been done to make that happen,
>>>> but I can't find it right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> After this step we can make integration with gnome contact + empathy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to study the telepathy backend.
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense.
>>>>
>>>>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>>>>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>>>>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>>>>
>>>> When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>>>>
>>>> PS: May I suggest you turn off digest mode, so that replies and threads
>>>> make more sense. Digest mode is useful for the casual reader, but if
>>>> we're to interact on the list, it's probably easier to turn it off.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Merlijn
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/28/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>>    1. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Matteo Bonicolini)
>>>>>>    2. Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>       (Pavel Machek)
>>>>>>    3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
>>>>>>       Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
>>>>>>    4. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
>>>>>>       Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)
>>>>>>    5. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
>>>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Matteo Bonicolini.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/27/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>>>    1. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Matteo Bonicolini)
>>>>>>>    2. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>>>> distro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/25/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>>>>    1. Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August) 2019
>>>>>>>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till
>>>>>>>> August)
>>>>>>>>     2019
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <e339d0ff-c083-af95-786b-4d459f6ff978@???>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's a new blog/update post out:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-ninth-update-march-till-august-2019.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry it took a while since the previous post, a lot of things were
>>>>>>>> happening and I also decided to postpone writing one several times
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> instead write more code / software, but now feels like a good
>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might be
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> great time to dive in and join in on the fun? :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Merlijn
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <c40e549b-c592-ce59-276a-a90e1dd0b50c@???>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>>>>> distro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require
>>>>>>> html
>>>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Digest Footer
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>>>>>>> End of Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>>>>> ******************************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
>>>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
>>>>>>     Issue 7
>>>>>> Message-ID: <20191127212926.GA20612@amd>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require
>>>>>>> html
>>>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
>>>>>> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
>>>>>> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
>>>>>> mainlined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
>>>>>> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
>>>>>> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
>>>>>> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>>>> (cesky, pictures)
>>>>>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
>>>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>> Message-ID: <20191127213923.GC20612@amd>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
>>>>>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>>>> (cesky, pictures)
>>>>>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>> Message-ID: <6a234d9e-e0d6-d932-e5e7-b3c80c7fcb14@???>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
>>>>>> send for review) patches here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>>>> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1911280353150.9344@???>
>>>>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
>>>>>> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all), but
>>>>>> it is features in some of news posts.
>>>>>> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
>>>>>> accounts and other things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea of
>>>>>> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that we
>>>>>> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Merlijn
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:22:49 +0200
> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> To: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7
> Message-ID: <11b0498f-23c2-73c9-5491-32bbcfe4f602@???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Matteo,
>
> I have a bit more code I have to push, I have data connections mostly
> working.
>
> I'll try to push it all out tomorrow.
>
> Do you have a lot of local changes?
>
> Cheers,
> Merlijn
>
> On 21/06/2020 18:30, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>> Hello,
>> for now I commented the line because the pointer g is not used.
>>
>>        /* pending_operation_group *g =
>>             pending_operation_group_new(path, ofono_link_finish, priv);*/

>>
>> but I think it is not correct because we need to run
>> g_idle_add(link_pending_execute, priv); with the new group added in
>> the else case.
>>
>>         if (ctx->active)
>>         {
>>           ofono_connctx_deactivate(ctx);
>>           g_idle_add(link_pending_execute, priv);
>>         }
>>         else
>>         {
>>           /* set ctx from gconf */
>>         }

>>
>>
>> On 6/20/20, maemo-leste-request@???
>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 20:36:51 +0200
>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
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>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> some know the right path to assign at line 66-67
>>>          pending_operation_group *g =
>>>             pending_operation_group_new(path, ofono_link_finish, priv);

>>>
>>> of link.c of libicd-network-ofono?
>>>
>>> On 12/1/19, maemo-leste-request@???
>>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>>>
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>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:58:37 +0100
>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 5
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>>>>
>>>>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>>>>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>>>>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>>>>
>>>>> When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>>>>
>>>> It is partially true. Hildon handle the gtk app is it true but the app
>>>> it is not adjusted as phone friendly. It is not easy to render app
>>>> like abiword for a phone user but in my opinion may be nice to improve
>>>> this features.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/30/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>    1. Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2)
>>>>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:38:47 +0100
>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10,
>>>>>     Issue 2)
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28/11/2019 11:49, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think is better to make a port of empathy to hildonize it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that might be interesting too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is the fast way to do te app.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing to keep in mind is that currently we don't package a
>>>>> hildonized gtk3 yet. I know some work had been done to make that
>>>>> happen,
>>>>> but I can't find it right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> After this step we can make integration with gnome contact + empathy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to study the telepathy backend.
>>>>>
>>>>> That makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>>>>>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>>>>>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: May I suggest you turn off digest mode, so that replies and threads
>>>>> make more sense. Digest mode is useful for the casual reader, but if
>>>>> we're to interact on the list, it's probably easier to turn it off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/28/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>>>    2. Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>>       (Pavel Machek)
>>>>>>>    3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
>>>>>>>       Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
>>>>>>>    4. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
>>>>>>>       Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)
>>>>>>>    5. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Matteo Bonicolini.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/27/19, maemo-leste-request@???
>>>>>>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>    2. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>>>>>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>>>>> distro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/25/19, maemo-leste-request@???
>>>>>>>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>>>>>    1. Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August) 2019
>>>>>>>>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till
>>>>>>>>> August)
>>>>>>>>>     2019
>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <e339d0ff-c083-af95-786b-4d459f6ff978@???>
>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's a new blog/update post out:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-ninth-update-march-till-august-2019.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry it took a while since the previous post, a lot of things were
>>>>>>>>> happening and I also decided to postpone writing one several times
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> instead write more code / software, but now feels like a good
>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> great time to dive in and join in on the fun? :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Merlijn
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <c40e549b-c592-ce59-276a-a90e1dd0b50c@???>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>>>>>> distro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the
>>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require
>>>>>>>> html
>>>>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for
>>>>>>>> dialer
>>>>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> ******************************************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
>>>>>>>     Issue 7
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <20191127212926.GA20612@amd>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the
>>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require
>>>>>>>> html
>>>>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for
>>>>>>>> dialer
>>>>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
>>>>>>> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
>>>>>>> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
>>>>>>> mainlined.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
>>>>>>> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
>>>>>>> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
>>>>>>> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>>>>> (cesky, pictures)
>>>>>>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <20191127213923.GC20612@amd>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that
>>>>>>> mixing
>>>>>>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>>>>> (cesky, pictures)
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <6a234d9e-e0d6-d932-e5e7-b3c80c7fcb14@???>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>>>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>>>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
>>>>>>> send for review) patches here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
>>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>>> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1911280353150.9344@???>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>>>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
>>>>>>> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all),
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it is features in some of news posts.
>>>>>>> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
>>>>>>> accounts and other things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then,
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>>>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
>>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>>>
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