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Author: Simon Walter
To: dng
Old-Topics: Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?
Subject: Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen? -> AMD bashing
On 3/21/20 12:15 PM, terryc wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:24:27 +0100
> Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@???> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs?
> Aps, a bit slow. We had a pair of these;
> processor       : 3
> vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family      : 23
> model           : 17
> model name      : AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics
> stepping        : 0
> microcode       : 0x810100b
> cpu MHz         : 1600.000
> cache size      : 512 KB

This is almost the slowest Ryzen you can buy, is it not?

> 2) it turned out to be very picky on the brand of Ramm chips or it
> didn't like operating at less than the 2200G

Wow, so yeah, you do not know what you are doing.

> As someone who had a stock of older Intel mobo/cpus that I ran
> into the ground and considered 10 years as a good life,but knew that
> some brands struggled to last five years, I decided to buy AMD to
> ensure competition and I've been a bit shocked in the apparent failure
> rate. 50% in FX series cpus, 100% in A4 cpus and 50% in the above Ryzen
> motherboard. My tip is to make sure you have good warranty coverage
> and retain all the bits until that period has passed. I've stuck to
> buying Asus brand as te seem less contemptable towards linux.


CPUs do not usually fail unless you are overclocking them or it is a
secondary failure caused by the motherboard or PSU. In the first case,
you broke it yourself. In the second case, the CPU is not to blame either.

So it sounds like you are either spreading FUD, or are just really good
at finding shady vendors that sell refurbished hardware as brand new.

I've used only AMD for my and my customers' servers and workstations for
the last 15 years - more recently, laptops too. I have had one (1)
motherboard (AsuS) problem. A capacitor blew and I was sent a
replacement right away. All the Opteron, A4, A6, A8, A10, A12, Ryzen
systems are still running. Lots have been upgraded with more RAM (It is
an acronym for Random Access Memory. Spelling it "Ramm chips" just makes
you look ignorant. There are multiple "chips" on one "stick". You could
say RAM sticks if you wanna sound cool.) and with newer CPU and SSDs. I
have not tried EPIC nor Threadripper.

I challenge your "apparent failure rate". All of your A4 CPUs failed.
How many was that? One? Please be more specific on how they failed and
what the reason they failed if you want to be taken seriously. What
motherboard? You don't mention a motherboard, just a 2200G.