Hi,

On 24/11/19 1:21 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..apologies, I just hit the Reply-button and saw you on the
> Cc:-line, and was led to believe that was your intention.
> Responding to this message, I found I had to hit the
> ReplyAll-button to get you there, probably because you put both me
> and DNG in the To: lines.

Again, no list message. This time I changed after reply-all to have
you as CC and the list as TO.

>> I have tried ASCII 2.0 -- but it looks like there is a new 2.1
>> version just about to be announced?
>
> ..tried upgrading to 2.1? AFAIK that should happen automagically
> if you run e.g. aptitude update etc at least weekly.

The NUC has Debian on the internal NVME drives.... but it doesn't work
properly.

I am running MX 18.3 on an external drive, it works fine.

This new machine has never ran Devuan properly; I do get a cli, but no
desktop GUI (XFCE) ... it just won't start, probably to do with the
graphics included in this box (Vega AMD / Intel special setup).

>> Graphics: Device-1: Intel driver: i915 v: kernel
>
> ..you have this Intel card working ok?

Not tried specifically.

>> Device-2: AMD driver: amdgpu v: kernel

There might be a BIOS setting for this, but I really expect the
"better" AMD setup to work... it's one of the reasons I chose this
particular option over the plain Intel one.

>> Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: amdgpu,ati,modesetting
>> unloaded: fbdev,radeon,
>
> ..are these drivers fighting each other??? I see amdgpu but no
> radeonsi, do you have 3D accelleration?

I did nothing special here, just tried a simple desktop live ISO of
ASCII 2.0 and now 2.1 -- no different.

The INXI output was created using the fully working MX 18.3 setup, not
Devuan.

> ..ah, Too New Toy: the Radeon RX Vega M GH on the i7-8809G

Yep, that's it.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#List_of_8th_generation_Kaby_La
ke_G_processors
>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_Vega_series
> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/130409/intel-core
- -i7-8809g-processor-with-radeon-rx-vega-m-gh-graphics-8m-cache-up-to-4-2
0-ghz.html
>
>
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3267074/intel-hades-canyon-nuc-nuc8i7hvk
- -review.html
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amdgpu/
>
> ..hang in there, or send it my way. ;o)

LOL

> ..this HW below works ok?

Yes, but I do have audio problems, which are temporarily fixed by doing:
pulseaudio -k

But otherwise it is okay.

There are a combination of things that might be screwing with sound:
1. Facebook.....
2. Palemoon (older version was worse)
3. Waterfox Classic (56.3 base of Firefox)
4. xfreerdp

If I stay away from FB and don't expect any browser to play sound and
don't use xfreerdp, then vlc is happy playing sound without giving
problems for extended periods of time. If I use any of the above 4
options, particularly FB, then sound can screw-up pretty quickly.

Even tried FB in TBB, that helps a little, TNN is FF ESR 68+ based.
I'm thinking that older Firefox and related browsers is part of the
sound problem; using the latest Firefox and probably the the "modern"
version of Waterfox might be okay too. Never had ANY sound issues
whatsoever with any other device (was mostly using an older Macbook
Pro, it's sound was good with Devuan, as was everything else).

Anyway, the main problem is that Devuan isn't happy on the new toy;
hopefully Beowulf or other updates will fix these problems and I can
stop using MX.

>> Installing with ASCII 2.0 wouldn't boot properly to the XFCE
>> desktop and I wasn't interested in changing kernels
>
> ..you may have to, your box AMD graphics was too new for ASCII 2.0
> as released last year, the driver guys at *.freedesktop.org used to
> need half a year and guinea hardware to write drivers, nowadays, I
> dunno.

Yeah, sadly ASCII 2.1 has the same problems, stuck with MX for now.

>> or doing anything else to make it work out of the box, including
>> trying to work out why XFCE was a problem with Devuan ASCII.
>>
>>
>> Maybe I should try ASCII 2.1 -- but I was expecting Beowulf to be
>> here "any time soon" ... for a longggg while now.
>
> ..mmm. :o)

:(

Pity it didn't help... but I did try. Again, perhaps when Beowulf is
ready, the drivers /might/ be sorted too.

>> The MX installer doesn't support installation installation on
>> RAID1 mdadm devices! I prefer to use RAID1 for everything, then
>> LUKS on all but the /boot partition with LVM2 -- that sort of
>> setup isn't possible with the MX installer.
>
> ..you've seen http://wiki.tldp.org/LVM-on-RAID or
> http://jasonwryan.com/blog/2012/02/11/lvm/ or
> http://www.iverbi.de/slackware/RAID1_LVM_LUKS_Slackware12_2_Howto.html
> ?

I've done this setup many times, all on servers that never needed any
GUI desktop. The servers are all fine. I'll live with MX installer
issues, hoping this is only temporary; I do need a working setup, so
thank goodness for MX to give me that with the newer hardware.

The Macbook had a nice 2880 x 1800 display and I was using a FHD
screen with that; I still use that when I'm on the road (usually with
a FHD screen on site when I can).

The new machine is attached to a 4K and a 2K monitor. Loads of great
real estate.

The FHD has been retired from normal use with the new screens in play.

>> But XFCE works perfectly out of the box with MX, so I have
>> something to work with in the meantime.

Cheers
A.