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Author: Alexey Zilber
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Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] Blocker/task list for Beowulf?
I also agree that Mason's explanation is good. At least it's not "Savaged
by Systems".

-Alex

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 4:24 AM Daniel Reurich <daniel@???> wrote:

> On 08/10/19 05:37, golinux@??? wrote:
>
> </snip>
>
> >>> One para on why systemd isn't in the spirit of free software and one
> >>> on open
> >>> source vs free software is still on my personal wish list.
> >>
> >> Here you go:
> >>
> >>     One of the unique attributes of the free software world
> >> historically has
> >>     been the modular nature of system components. There was
> >> opportunity for
> >>     anyone with an interest in doing so to write a replacement for a
> >>     component, and if the software they wrote was reliable and
> >> presented novel
> >>     features, it might become the preferred solution for that
> >> particular task.
> >>     The end result of this was that a wide variety of code from a large,
> >>     diverse group of free software developers saw use in many systems,
> >> giving
> >>     free software users a choice in what software they used. Because
> >> of this,
> >>     we have a number of excellent free software solutions to serve
> almost
> >>     every function - mailers of various sorts, loggers, web servers,
> >> process
> >>     monitors, domain name system software, with the list going on nearly
> >>     indefinitely, and this flexibility and suitability has made free
> >> software
> >>     the preferred platform for writing and running software services
> >> of all
> >>     types.

> >>
> >>     One of the issues with systemd is that, contrary to the Unix
> >> philosophy of
> >>    "do one thing and do it well", systemd seeks to do all things, and to
> >>     explicitly crowd out other software by offering tightly-integrated
> >> modules
> >>     that are heavily dependent upon one another. As operating systems
> >>     integrate systemd, the temptation exists to run more and more
> systemd
> >>     code, with each piece being difficult to replace individually given
> >>     systemd's lack of interest in portability or standards compliance.
> >> Systemd
> >>     seeks to define a new, defacto standard, controlled by the
> relatively
> >>     small and isolated group of systemd developers, rather than
> >> adhering to
> >>     portable, proven, multi-vendor POSIX standards, honed through
> >> decades of
> >>     experience running complex, critical, real-world computer systems.

> >>
> >> Note: I'm fond of my commas and would prefer that if this is used, it
> >> remain
> >> largely intact.
> >>
> >
> > Oh, my . . . That is way too wordy and out of character with the rest
> > of the very friendly and accessible free software page. File this under
> > "be careful what you wish for". LOL!!! Sorry for your trouble.
> >
> Actually, I thought it to be a rather nicely rounded explanation that
> would be useful for explaining the broad reason why systemd is
> anti-thetical to free software. We should use it...
>
> Dan
>
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