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Author: Rick Moen
To: devuan-dev
Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] ci.devuan.org is down
Quoting Jaromil (jaromil@???):

> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > The reality is as pointed out in other posts that it will be 2+ weeks
> > before nextime will be around to bring up this server. Therefore I
> > propose if there is a consensus to set up a new instance with jenkins
> > with a temporary url from a domain/subdomain we do have control of.
> a new instance of jenkins was started by Katolaz and we are already
> planning to set it up, but given the way you are treating the Devuan
> project and other volunteers, I'm in doubt if we will find the
> motivation to continue. I'll talk to other peers, you can just go on
> and make a scene in public and come back with signed letters for Dan
> "please stay" <3

Although I don't want to seem as if I are taking sides in intra-Devuan
Project interpersonal conflicts, I'll nonetheless cite the above as, in
my opinion, the very _model_ of a non-constructive statement in the
current collection of disputes.

Your reaction (above) to Daniel Reurich merely having _proposed_ to set
up a new Jenkins instance in a particular way if there is consensus was
totally over the top, unwarranted, and does not serve the interests of
the project. It might have been appropriate to say 'We'll bear that
offer in mind, but it looks like we're resolving the problem a different
way', but using the offer as the excuse for personal attacks in public
is a very bad move. (If I'd been a Devuan Project insider, I could
easily imagine myself having made a similar offer, having, as I said,
built and administered Jenkins instances, so the notion of being
personally attacked for making such an offer seems particularly
worrisome as a sign of the destructive spiral.)

Solely my opinion, of course, but I think it's pretty clear.