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Author: holger krekel
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To: almereyda
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Subject: Re: [Squatconf] squatconf BLN for dtn.is 2 ?
Hey ksenya, almereyda, dimitry, all,

there was somewhat valid criticism on using the label
"squatconf" for what happened in berlin 2016, already.

i suggest to just reference squatconf in some teaser
for what you are up to, but use a different new name.

or do you think it's great to turn "squatconf" into a brand?

holger


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 19:28 +0100, almereyda wrote:
> Best Ksenya,
> dear squatconf list.
>
> We just met briefly this afternoon and coalesced around the possible
> squatconf in Berlin during May around DTN#2.
>
> Taking into account the proposals and constraints shared in this thread
> before, we are going to prepare:
>
> a squatconf one day after DTN, Sunday, 20th of May 2019 in the space of
> "Blockchain Embassy". We think it is a kind gesture of the "distributed
> systems and protocols community" to share efforts and move together.
>
> Further on we would like to suggest a more in-depth follow up in the
> Telekommunisten space focussed around bringing "decentralised networks
> and decentralised economies". This is also going to be the subject of my
> Lightning Talk for DTN and will draw from experiences in both
> communities, the developer one, and the one of Commons, Degrowth and
> Social and Solidarity Economy that we come to witness at Ecobytes.
>
> Dmitry, would this be of your interest, and the days 21 - 22 (23) of May
> available at your site?
>
> In the following days I will clean the pad a little and get the facts to
> the top, with discussions remaining at the bottom. Then we can also
> think about a small landing page (squatconf.eu nowadays helps you to
> fight your erectile dysfunction - but a subdomain here and there might
> do, too), and hooking up with third parties for event preparations.
>
> Then everyone, like Dominic and others who would like to prepare a
> presentation, pair programming session or alike, could leave their ideas
> in there.
>
> I've now also found #squatconf:matrix.org which seems a reasonable way
> to stay in touch, too.
>
> Please also spread the message to DTN presenters and participants, in so
> they can adjust travel plannings, if not booked, yet (:
>
> See you around,
>
> Jon
>
> Am 23.02.19 um 01:28 schrieb ksenia bellman:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I just got availability confirmed for that space in xberg that I
> > mentioned. It’s a nice space. Do we want it or we have something else
> > in mind?
> >
> > On Wed 20. Feb 2019 at 21:07, ksenia bellman <k@???
> > <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi all!

> >
> >     Hey @almereyda thanx a lot for taking a lead on the next
> >     squatconf, really hugely appreciated! (I was contemplating doin
> >     something squatconfy, but got a bit lazy). I'm in. 

> >
> >     Just put some notes in the old pad
> >     here: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
> >     can use this for now, unless you have other preferred means of comms.
> >     Made a suggestion in there to have a week long Squatconf. Cuz DTN
> >     is a pretty divey event in itself and I'd like to attend. Yet I'd
> >     love to take part in the Squatconf as well. I'm up for clearing up
> >     the whole week for the Squatconf.
> >     I couldn't find squatconf on freenode btw, does it still exist?

> >
> >     @Dmytri Kleiner <mailto:dk@trick.ca> do you still have access to
> >     that lovely space you hosted a little event with federated wiki
> >     Ward, or should we look for more locations? I have a potential
> >     location in xberg available 24/7 with chairs, projector, fridge
> >     and stuff. 

> >
> >     Adding my contacts cuz I keep missing my emails:
> >     Telegram: @j328044
> >     Signal: +49 1520 6068091

> >
> >     Another suggestion: whoever is in Berlin we can try to get
> >     together IRL sometime next week & chat about Squatconf, check out
> >     the potential venue etc. 

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 14:37, Dmytri Kleiner <dk@???
> >     <mailto:dk@trick.ca>> wrote:

> >
> >
> >         Hey all, yeah, we want to do something focused on venture
> >         communism and
> >         counterantidisintermediationism, conversations that substack,
> >         dominic,
> >         feross and others have been casually involved with in the past.

> >
> >         We would host in our space[^1], and it would be a facilitated
> >         discussion, with no audience, only participants, using our
> >         "international" style of facilitation.

> >
> >         Probably about a dozen to so people, 4 to 6 hours. Whatever
> >         day is best
> >         for the participants is good for us.
> >         We like to be open, but would focus on making progress and
> >         forging
> >         alliances in this session, so would prefer to work with people
> >         who are
> >         already favorable to the work of Telekommunisten, venture
> >         communism,
> >         etc, self-identify as left/socialists, are are at least
> >         potentially
> >         interested in working in solidarity with Marxist mass
> >         movements in the
> >         global south.

> >
> >         If there are people who are interested, but unsure about their
> >         feelings
> >         about our political orientation, we could do a Commie Curious
> >         session[^2] for a more a more general audience.

> >
> >         If there was also a SquatConf in parallel to DTN,
> >         Telekommunisten would
> >         be happy to contribute to that with presentations and/or
> >         facilitated
> >         discssions as well.

> >
> >         Not sure if I'll attend DTN, but really excited about having
> >         you all in
> >         town, lets make the most of it!

> >
> >         Cheers.

> >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         [1] We've moved since last time, so not the same as the old
> >         space, a bit
> >         smaller.
> >         [2] We have hosted Commie Curious sessions the last two years
> >         at CCC.

> >
> >
> >
> >         On 2019-02-18 00:49, Dominic Tarr wrote:
> >         > I am sure it's cool to have a squatconf alongside DTN!
> >         >
> >         > Btw, the telecommunistas are wanting to organize something
> >         too. I'm
> >         > not sure what scale they are talking though, I'm not sure if
> >         it's
> >         > whole day or just a evening, anyway recommend pinging dmytri
> >         > https://twitter.com/dmytri

> >         >
> >         > On 2/17/19, Jérôme Loï <gorhgorh@???
> >         <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu>> wrote:
> >         >> Hey hey, it was nice to have you here ;)

> >         >>
> >         >> About Squatconf / DTN, sounds like a fun thing to do, and
> >         lots of the
> >         >> usual
> >         >> suspects will be at DTN anyway.

> >         >>
> >         >> On my side I'm not sure to attend as the dates are
> >         colliding with
> >         >> something
> >         >> already planned, and I don't have
> >         >> the resources/will to pay / beg for a 200 ish euro conf
> >         ticket. but
> >         >> come for
> >         >> something before / after is probably doable.

> >         >>
> >         >> About the WS, i lost the domain (you need a valid credit
> >         card for
> >         >> theses
> >         >> things ... it seems ...)
> >         >> but I do have the git repo somewhere, and it was hosted in
> >         Joepie's
> >         >> git
> >         >> server (and probably still is),
> >         >> I'll look for that and give you access.

> >         >>
> >         >> As for "squatting" DTN, this is another debate as i don't
> >         think we
> >         >> should
> >         >> try to make shadow to an event
> >         >> that is already helping us (they probably will help Dominic
> >         and James
> >         >> coming
> >         >> to Berlin, etc, etcà) as well as
> >         >> gathering pll that would be interested by theses discutions.

> >         >>
> >         >> I would favour something before / after the event, rather that
> >         >> something
> >         >> close and happening at the same time.

> >         >>
> >         >> Let see where this leads...

> >         >>
> >         >> See you all soon i hope

> >         >>
> >         >> Jérôme

> >         >>
> >         >>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 18:35, almereyda <almereyda@???
> >         <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io>> wrote:

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Hi SquatConf!

> >         >>>
> >         >>> It's been a pleasure running into folks around FOSDEM and
> >         afterwards!
> >         >>> Thanks to Caleb for an inspiring conversational flow, to
> >         Aaron for
> >         >>> continuing the discussions we commenced elsewhere, and to
> >         Jérome for
> >         >>> hosting me the last night. It feels good to reconnect to
> >         the network
> >         >>> at
> >         >>> times.

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Is there anyone who would like to participate in a
> >         SquatConf in
> >         >>> parallel
> >         >>> to Data Terra Nemo 2 https://dtn.is?

> >         >>>
> >         >>> This happens on the weekend of May 17 - 18 in Berlin.

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Hence SquatConf belongs to no one, I'm seeing a chance it
> >         can fulfill
> >         >>> its role as a fringe event to preparations of others. Last
> >         week we
> >         >>> ran
> >         >>> into a discussion about the prices of dtn.is
> >         <http://dtn.is> through

> >         >>>
> >         >>>    https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/1094200193464061954

> >         >>>
> >         >>> which made me think if it wouldn't be appropriate to take
> >         over the
> >         >>> dates
> >         >>> and present further realities and contexts to
> >         distribution. For this
> >         >>> I
> >         >>> am starting conversation with the venue, if they can offer
> >         free space
> >         >>> in
> >         >>> a cafe next to the river, and with a wagon place nearby.

> >         >>>
> >         >>> The latter could make use of a nice Freifunk WiFi
> >         installation ...

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Does anybody know what happened to http://squatconf.eu/ ?
> >         Seems its
> >         >>> maintenance got individualised and the collective couldn't
> >         keep it
> >         >>> up?

> >         >>>
> >         >>> The last version resides in
> >         >>> http://web.archive.org/web/20160317122026/http://squatconf.eu/

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Since https://github.com/squatconf doesn't have the sources
> >         >>> available,
> >         >>> I'm also interested in knowing who might retain a copy of
> >         the git
> >         >>> tree?

> >         >>>
> >         >>> Thanks in advance for any opinions,

> >         >>>
> >         >>> yala / Jon

> >         >>>
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> >
> >         -- 
> >         Dmytri Kleiner

> >
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