Am Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2018 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Steve Litt - 20.10.18, 03:55:
> > Some folks are asking for automatic sysvinit init script generation,
> > or else unit file to sysvinit init script converters. Some are asking
> > Devuan's developers to prioritize their scarce programmer resources
> > to modifying sysvinit, which is over 30 years old. Yet others think
> > we should reimplement all the systemd functions in the Unix paradigm.
> >
> > Stop the madness!

[…]

> How would it be to let the past be in the past… how would it to be let
> go of all the hurting each other and the blaming each other? The past is
> gone. Now both sysvinit and Systemd are there. That is just how it is.
> So instead of convincing those who use Systemd that it is bad, evil, and
> what else not, how about spending time to work on the alternatives like
> having sysvinit maintained again *and* supporting runit in Devuan?
>
> How would it look like if we all just accept that some like to use
> Systemd and some do not like to use or install it? Everyone for their
> own reasons with themselves are neither inherently right or wrong.
>
> As the sysvinit maintenance thing popped up as a discussion in Debian I
> see the wonderful opportunity to work together. KatolaZ kindly offered
> to help with maintaining sysvinit, Ian Jackson already offered to upload
> changes of Debian sysvinit package, there is a debian-init-diversity
> mailing list, focusing on discussing this work. And while there are some
> people… both in Devuan and Debian who seem to enjoy recreating the past
> with all the suffering again, there are also people who just go for:
>
> What can we do now to improve the situation for everyone? What can we do
> if we let go of the drama and focus on what is here *now*?
>
> The past is gone. It is over. It is just a memory. It by itself does not
> exist.
>
> Now there is the opportunity for a first light form of cooperation
> between Debian and Devuan and to learn to co-exist in peace with each
> other. To channel all the energy – a huge lot, if you ask me – spent to
> fight against each other to get some work done that will benefit both
> Devuan and Debian.
>
> What happens if we let go of the drama and get on with life again?
>
> Wonderful times, if you ask me. And nothing, at all, to be worried
> about.
>
> I fully get it, the drama has been exciting and interesting. A star
> performance so to say. The rebels against the empire or vice versa –
> without it even being clear on who played which role. But it never wrote
> a single line of code or helped even a tiny bit with maintaining a
> package.
>
> So are you ready to just let go of it… and move on with whatever is
> really important to you? Are you ready to focus on what you self can do,
> instead of insisting to control how other people spend their time?
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Best,


Well said, Martin, that's quite close to the name of your domain! :-)

Kind regards,
Stefan