> On Sep 20, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Erik Christiansen <dvalin@???> wrote:
>
> On 20.09.17 09:55, Svante Signell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 17:41 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>>> On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
>>>> I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
>>
>>>> And that's not possible for Gnome, because Gnome depends on systemd.
>>>> If you want Gnome you have to live with systemd. It's your choice.
>>>
>>> If that is true, then there is no Gnome in Devuan, and never can be?
>>
>> Of course Gnome can be made available in Devuan too, see e.g.
>>
>> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170918.102751.1992aff3.en.html
>> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170919.141940.3158b7ae.en.html
>
> Neither those posts, nor yours, provide any relevant information. The
> question still stands:
>
> If "Gnome depends on systemd ... you want Gnome you have to live with
> systemd." is true, then there is no Gnome in Devuan, and never can be?
>
> Perhaps you'd like to address the validity of the dichotomy?

Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and rebuilt without systemd.

Give it a try. Please build the gnome packages from scratch and report back with where compilation fails. Better yet, file bugs with patches to create a set of Gnome packages that don’t depend on systemd.



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