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Author: Dave Turner
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan
On 17/09/17 07:50, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:49:28AM +0200, arne wrote:
>> Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
>>
>> I had a fierce struggle with rc.local and systemd.
>> Took me 24 hours,
>> lots of coffee and pizza, (to abandon rc.local for most part in the end)
>>
>> I am feeling a pain in my heart if I have to leave debian.
>>
>> It was my companion for 10 years.
>>
> Hi Arne,
>
> here you have people who had been with Debian for much more than 10
> years, and all have switched to Devuan without much pain, and surely
> without regrets.
>
> So maybe you don't need to wait until the next problem with systemd
> arises. Just take a deep breath, close your eyes, and jump ;)
>
>> Now the question: I run debian stretch.
>> is it hard to switch to devuan or is a new install preferred?
>>
> "upgrading" from Debian to Devuan is officially supported so far only
> for Jessie (i.e., from Debian woody/jessie to Devuan Jessie). In
> theory, it shouldn't be too difficult to convert a Debian stretch into
> a Devuan ASCII, but I have not tried it so far. Maybe somebody else
> has good news on that front.
>
> It is quite possible that an official safe upgrade path will be
> provided also between Debian stretch and Devuan ASCII, as ASCII
> becomes stable.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
>
>
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I use debian stretch at work. It is thoroughly polluted by systemd so
removing it will be extremely difficult.

The upgrade from debian wheezy to devuan is easy because although
systemd is present in wheezy you can easily remove it.

In your case - do a fresh install.

DaveT