On Wednesday 21 June 2017 at 14:44:34, KatolaZ wrote:

> Steve Jobs understood that users must be won with eyecandies, and on
> that side we will never be able to beat Apple. Not because Free
> Software cannot produce better eyecandies, but because the newly-won
> users, lured through eyecandies, would flee back to Apple as soon as
> Apple provides a more appealing set of eyecandies. We should win users
> on more fundamental aspects, like freedom, but you cannot force
> anybody to be free against their will. Freedom is a choice, to be made
> again every single day, and has a cost.

I've been following this discussion thread with interest - I'm relatively new
on this list, and it's been good to see the debate and opinions going back and
forth.

A fairly fundamental question strikes me about the entire topic, though:

- what is the Devuan project aiming to do, and who for?


I can think of a few potential answers to that myself, from the simplistic:

- It's Debian without systemd (as far as that is possible / feasible)

to a more philosophical:

- it's what we wished Debian had been if they hadn't gone down the Gnome /
systemd route

or maybe just a general:

- it's a Linux distro for people who know that they don't want systemd
(which, in my opinion, eliminates a very large proportion of "average computer
users", who have no interest in what systemd is, but want something to click
on so they can use this "computer" tool)

If Devuan is aiming to be "a better Linux distro than any other", has anyone
actually defined what "better" means and who it applies to?


I suppose what I'm really getting at is "who are Devuan's intended user base
(or 'market' if you prefer)?"


Thanks,


Antony.

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- William Gibson

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