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Author: Amir Taaki
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To: unsystem
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour campaign, obliterates other candidates
Yeah lets take note about the Arab Spring. Rojava, the most exciting
thing since the Catalan revolution has emerged in the cracks of global
state dominance.

Catalan revolution was trade unions organising militias. They lost to an
organised coherent opposition. Rojava has a new strategy.

Read the PDF called "A Mountain River has many bends" (extract from the
book called "A Small Key can open a Large Door").

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Rojava’s relationship with the Syrian state is yet to be tested. The Ro-
java Canton Confederation is not set up as a state. It draws instead on
the idea of dual power, an idea first outlined by the French anarchist
Proudhon. The KCC described dual power as “a strategy of achieving a
libertarian socialist economy and political and social autonomy by means
of incrementally establishing and then networking institutions of direct
participatory democracy” to contest the existing authority of
state-capitalism. Rojava currently has set out a path of co-existence
with whatever state arises from the Syrian civil war and to the current
alignment of neighboring states (namely Turkey, Iraq, and Iran) that
encompass Kurdistan. People in Rojava would maintain their Syrian
citizenship and participate in the Syrian state so long as it doesn’t
directly contradict the Rojava principles. This uneasy co-existence is
the reason the cantons have explicitly forbidden national flags, have
not created a new currency, a foreign ministry, or national passports
and identity papers, and why they do not have a standing army. It is
unclear if the people of Rojava plan to maintain this relationship with
the state or what would happen in conflictual situations.

Rojava is neither a state nor a pure anarchist society. It is an
ambitious social experiment that has rejected the seduction of state
power and nationalism and has instead embraced autonomy, direct
democracy, and decentralization to create a freer society for people in
Rojava. The Rojava principles have borrowed from anarchism, social
ecology, and feminism in an attempt to chart a societal vision that
emphasizes accountability and independence for a radically pluralistic
community. It is unclear whether this experiment will move towards
greater decentralization of the kind Bookchin suggests and the
Zapatistas have implemented or if it will become more centralized and
federal as, happened after both the Russian and Spanish revolutions.
What is happening right now is a historic departure from traditional
national-liberation struggle and should be of great interest to
anti-authoritarians everywhere.

Jonathan Valiente:
> Perhaps you can enlighten me Amir on your perspective of how a failed state
> would be able to organize to create beneficial emergent properties.
>
> If the people are prepared to organize that's one thing, but an unorganized
> mass with an impasse of ideologies sounds like a recipe for disaster.
> Noticing whats happening with the Arab Spring, it seems a power vacuum
> doesn't necessarily lend itself to benevolent organization.
>
> I am of the opinion that government is a higher level of organization,
> that, when done correctly, allows for useful systems properties that are
> unattainable otherwise. Perhaps I am just not a true anarchist at heart.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> Corbyn is definitely a big state communist with a modern twist like IS
>> is the caliphate with a modern twist. These things represent the memes
>> of ideology twisting and turning with the times. They are both products
>> of the time.
>>
>> I would love to see Corbyn in power if I knew he was a blood thirsty
>> communist. Golly the fascists that are now gaining power in Europe are
>> really sneaky bastards. We might actually reach the point where a race
>> war becomes desirable.
>>
>> I prefer the governments that overspend and are losing power. Lots of
>> great stuff happening in Greece and Spain for that reason. Do we really
>> want a "successful state"?
>>
>> And what makes me excited is these new possibilities (despite the danger
>> and instability of our situations) with groups like IS and Corbyn
>> representing this new form of politics that have now opened a new arena.
>>
>> Jaromil:
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Cody R Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Corbyn's shadow chancellor reportedly wants to nationalize the
>>>> English banks, railways and utilities. So pretty anarchist.
>>>
>>> you have a point there Cody. decoupling the (urgently necessary, IMHO)
>>> political opposition to ultra-liberism from nationalism and isolationism
>>> is a hard task. politicians in this phase are just phishing for votes on
>>> the boundaries, which will consolidate later around a better defined
>>> agenda (which also could explain the surging at the polls at times).
>>>
>>> Undoubtedly there are a lot of votes from public sector fans that are
>>> left out of many political programs. for now, i just sense this is a
>>> tactic to address them. or perhaps you are right he is not an anarchist.
>>>
>>> But then honestly, at least for EU (somehow very different from USA) I
>>> think socialism is preferrable to anything else right now, because its
>>> the only way to address poverty and growing nationalism: a disease
>>> created by ultra-lib and narcissistic elites (from left and right). And
>>> its too late now to issue a lot of liquidity: the ECB is not as smart as
>>> the FED. the european turbo-capitalism lacks the american egalitarian
>>> ethos and the philantropic posture, its all built around
>>> almost-provincial enclaves with a yucky smell of "purity" around them,
>>> accumulating a lot of wealth in a few spots. the lack of bottom-line
>>> economies of support can become our grave as the masses have zillions
>>> reasons to be hangry and hungry and do horrible things. enough zombie
>>> movies, please.
>>>
>>> As of US... I don't know Sanders but from having overheard from friends
>>> it seems to me that Tim just nailed it in three lines
>>>
>>> besides all that, all my hopes today are in... V for Varoufakis!
>>> he haz bitcoinz! :^)))))
>>>
>>> ciao
>>>
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