Perhaps you can enlighten me Amir on your perspective of how a failed state
would be able to organize to create beneficial emergent properties.

If the people are prepared to organize that's one thing, but an unorganized
mass with an impasse of ideologies sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Noticing whats happening with the Arab Spring, it seems a power vacuum
doesn't necessarily lend itself to benevolent organization.

I am of the opinion that government is a higher level of organization,
that, when done correctly, allows for useful systems properties that are
unattainable otherwise. Perhaps I am just not a true anarchist at heart.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> Corbyn is definitely a big state communist with a modern twist like IS
> is the caliphate with a modern twist. These things represent the memes
> of ideology twisting and turning with the times. They are both products
> of the time.
>
> I would love to see Corbyn in power if I knew he was a blood thirsty
> communist. Golly the fascists that are now gaining power in Europe are
> really sneaky bastards. We might actually reach the point where a race
> war becomes desirable.
>
> I prefer the governments that overspend and are losing power. Lots of
> great stuff happening in Greece and Spain for that reason. Do we really
> want a "successful state"?
>
> And what makes me excited is these new possibilities (despite the danger
> and instability of our situations) with groups like IS and Corbyn
> representing this new form of politics that have now opened a new arena.
>
> Jaromil:
> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Cody R Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> Corbyn's shadow chancellor reportedly wants to nationalize the
> >> English banks, railways and utilities. So pretty anarchist.
> >
> > you have a point there Cody. decoupling the (urgently necessary, IMHO)
> > political opposition to ultra-liberism from nationalism and isolationism
> > is a hard task. politicians in this phase are just phishing for votes on
> > the boundaries, which will consolidate later around a better defined
> > agenda (which also could explain the surging at the polls at times).
> >
> > Undoubtedly there are a lot of votes from public sector fans that are
> > left out of many political programs. for now, i just sense this is a
> > tactic to address them. or perhaps you are right he is not an anarchist.
> >
> > But then honestly, at least for EU (somehow very different from USA) I
> > think socialism is preferrable to anything else right now, because its
> > the only way to address poverty and growing nationalism: a disease
> > created by ultra-lib and narcissistic elites (from left and right). And
> > its too late now to issue a lot of liquidity: the ECB is not as smart as
> > the FED. the european turbo-capitalism lacks the american egalitarian
> > ethos and the philantropic posture, its all built around
> > almost-provincial enclaves with a yucky smell of "purity" around them,
> > accumulating a lot of wealth in a few spots. the lack of bottom-line
> > economies of support can become our grave as the masses have zillions
> > reasons to be hangry and hungry and do horrible things. enough zombie
> > movies, please.
> >
> > As of US... I don't know Sanders but from having overheard from friends
> > it seems to me that Tim just nailed it in three lines
> >
> > besides all that, all my hopes today are in... V for Varoufakis!
> > he haz bitcoinz! :^)))))
> >
> > ciao
> >
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