On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Today on #debconf:
>
> 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release
> 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default
> 20:11 < paultag> which they still do
>
> Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is pathethic. I provided a
> set of desystemdized de-libsystemd0-ed packaged half a year ago (deb-src
> http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd-{jessie,stretch}), and other than upower,
> it was a matter of a bunch of trivial changes to debian/{control,rules,...}.
>
> The time frame becomes bad... you don't want to be laughed at, do you?

Couldn't agree more. The problem seems to be people committing to
maintain packages :( I for one am willing to maintain some, but the
devuan git development process is still not clear to me.