Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner <dima@???> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely with
> LoginKit instead of logind.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png
>
> LoginKit (https://git.devuan.org/pkgs-utopia-substitution/loginkit) is an
> attempt to develop a shim that provides the parts of logind and libsystemd
> required to get some packages with a hard dependency on systemd to work
> without it.
>
> Some packages (especially stuff like LightDM and GDM) depends on logind,
> but don't need the rest of systemd. We (and other distros, probably)
> definitely want major DEs and DMs to work without it, to preserve the
> user's freedom of choice. Therefore, LoginKit is not a complete systemd
> replacement, just a replacement for logind and some parts of libsystemd
> (libsystemd-login, libsystemd-journal and libsystemd-daemon).
>
> It's not perfect and the only distro it works on (since ~20 mins ago :D)
> is Devuan (surprise, isn't it?). It allows us to kick logind (the last
> piece of systemd) from the stock ISO. So far, I don't see any impact on
> user experience, which is good.
>
> There's a big pile of issues with LoginKit, with the most important being
> fixing all issues found during code review conducted by the folks at
> #devuan. It will take some time until this code matures, but knowing it
> works on the pre-alpha is pretty comforting :)
>
> Keep up the good work!
>
> Dima
>
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Re: [Dng] LoginKit on the pre-alpha
%20is%20an%0A>%20>%20attempt%20to%20develop%20a%20shim%20that%20provides%20the%20parts%20of%20logind%20and%20libsystemd%0A>%20>%20required%20to%20get%20some%20packages%20with%20a%20hard%20dependency%20on%20systemd%20to%20work%0A>%20>%20without%20it.%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20Some%20packages%20(especially%20stuff%20like%20LightDM%20and%20GDM)%20depends%20on%20logind,%0A>%20>%20but%20don't%20need%20the%20rest%20of%20systemd.%20We%20(and%20other%20distros,%20probably)%0A>%20>%20definitely%20want%20major%20DEs%20and%20DMs%20to%20work%20without%20it,%20to%20preserve%20the%0A>%20>%20user's%20freedom%20of%20choice.%20Therefore,%20LoginKit%20is%20not%20a%20complete%20systemd%0A>%20>%20replacement,%20just%20a%20replacement%20for%20logind%20and%20some%20parts%20of%20libsystemd%0A>%20>%20(libsystemd-login,%20libsystemd-journal%20and%20libsystemd-daemon).%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20It's%20not%20perfect%20and%20the%20only%20distro%20it%20works%20on%20(since%20~20%20mins%20ago%20:D)%0A>%20>%20is%20Devuan%20(surprise,%20isn't%20it?).%20It%20allows%20us%20to%20kick%20logind%20(the%20last%0A>%20>%20piece%20of%20systemd)%20from%20the%20stock%20ISO.%20So%20far,%20I%20don't%20see%20any%20impact%20on%0A>%20>%20user%20experience,%20which%20is%20good.%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20There's%20a%20big%20pile%20of%20issues%20with%20LoginKit,%20with%20the%20most%20important%20being%0A>%20>%20fixing%20all%20issues%20found%20during%20code%20review%20conducted%20by%20the%20folks%20at%0A>%20>%20#devuan.%20It%20will%20take%20some%20time%20until%20this%20code%20matures,%20but%20knowing%20it%0A>%20>%20works%20on%20the%20pre-alpha%20is%20pretty%20comforting%20:)%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20Keep%20up%20the%20good%20work!%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20Dima%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20--%0A>%20>%20Dima%20Krasner,%20dimakrasner.com%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%20_______________________________________________%0A>%20>%20Dng%20mailing%20list%0A>%20>%20Dng@???%0A>%20>%20https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng%0A>%20>%0A>%20>%0A>%20 "Reply to this message")
