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Author: Tim Patrick
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
Julia, I am wondering what is Ross like? does he seem to be taking
everything well so far?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Julia Tourianski <juliatourianski@???
> wrote:

> The entire thing has been shocking from the first day. Wish you guys could
> be in the court with us. Nothing quite like watching it in person.
> On Jan 15, 2015 6:51 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> They're making a go of it.
>> Before the PKK was seeking legal recognition for Kurds to be given a
>> seat in the UN (de jure). But then in the 90s they increasingly adopted
>> anti-state ideas and now they're more into making a confederation of
>> autonomous cities/towns/regions, and operating decentralised as an
>> independent nation (de facto). They're trying to create localised
>> administration with staying power against central authorities.
>>
>> On 01/16/2015 12:41 AM, brian@??? wrote:
>> > So is Rojava going to be a new country or what?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >     From:
>> >     "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>

>> >
>> >     To:
>> >     <unsystem@???>
>> >     Cc:

>> >
>> >     Sent:
>> >     Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:25:12 +0100
>> >     Subject:
>> >     Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.

>> >
>> >
>> >     goes to show that with 7 billion individuals, anything can happen.
>> I was
>> >     certain kobane was going to fall within a week and it's been months.
>> >     whether this is true or not, it's another reminder to give me
>> confidence
>> >     in the power for individuals.

>> >
>> >     btw this is a crazy day:

>> >
>> >     * 3 people shot dead in belgian by anti-terror police.

>> >
>> >     * David Cameron seeks cooperation of US president over encryption
>> >     crackdown:

>> >
>> http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/david-cameron-ask-us-barack-obama-help-tracking-islamist-extremists-online
>> >     this comes after cameron's speech after the paris shootings about
>> >     banning end to end encryption (making software like Darkwallet or
>> >     OpenBazaar illegal):
>> >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kqM0gn63M

>> >
>> >     * 2 italian girls captured in syria are freed after italian
>> government
>> >     pays a ransom of $12 million to the jihadis:

>> >
>> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/two-italian-aid-workers-freed-syria
>> >     here's the earlier article with their picture:

>> >
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724701/Two-Italian-aid-workers-kidnapped-Islamist-militants-Syria-ignoring-parents-pleas-not-go.html
>> >
>> >     * Joint statement by the academic delegation who went to Rojava is
>> >     released talking about their experience and describing the
>> >     revolution there:
>> >     http://roarmag.org/2015/01/statement-academic-delegation-rojava/

>> >
>> >     On 01/16/2015 12:12 AM, Mark Lamb wrote:
>> >     > When everyone made the point that "This trial is going to be
>> hugely
>> >     > important for the history of the internet" I completely agreed
>> with
>> >     > them. This trial is absolutely vital. However I didn't think it
>> could
>> >     > possibly go well!! Seems like it's going positively so far?
>> >     >
>> >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
>> >     > <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >     >
>> >     > I remember when they thought I was DPR, I was like "bitch please,
>> >     > I'm not smart enough for that"

>> >     >
>> >     > On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Mark Lamb <markdavidlamb@???
>> >     > <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >     >
>> >     > You beat me to posting that quote!

>> >     >
>> >     > This is so bizarre...

>> >     >
>> >     > Fascinating trial to follow!

>> >     >
>> >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>> >     > wrote:

>> >     >
>> >     > Myth and legend enters history,
>> >     > The Story of Dread Pirate Roberts
>> >     > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZGqBVBCRw>

>> >     >

>> >     >
>> >     > On 01/15/2015 11:59 PM, Brian Hoffman wrote:
>> >     > > Willy Bot Has now been implicated as DPR...

>> >     > >
>> >     > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
>> >     <cshrem@???
>> >     > > <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >     > >
>> >     > >> Whoa!

>> >     > >>
>> >     > >> "Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered
>> >     > >> silkroadmarket.org <http://silkroadmarket.org>
>> >     > <http://silkroadmarket.org> as a means to publicize
>> >     > >> the site further."

>> >     > >>

>> >     > >>

>> >
>> http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/
>> >     > >>
>> >     > >> On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>> >     > >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

>> >     > >>
>> >     > >> speechless

>> >     > >>

>> >     > >>

>> >
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sjuvu/defense_in_silk_road_trial_arguing_mark_karpeles/cnq7f3i
>> >     > >>
>> >     > >> On 01/15/2015 11:09 PM, Alicia Cruz wrote:
>> >     > >> > whoa! plot twist! so karpeles is dpr!?

>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@???
>> >     > >> <javascript:;>
>> >     > >> > <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org <javascript:;>>> wrote:

>> >     > >> >

>> >     > >> >

>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> > On 8 January 2015 13:32:53 CET, Aaron van Wirdum
>> >     > >> > <aaronbitcoining@??? <javascript:;>
>> >     > >> <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com <javascript:;>>> wrote:

>> >     > >> >

>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> > >As for the line drawn between private property and
>> >     > >> resources, IIRC this
>> >     > >> > >line is drawn at *natural* resources, hence,
>> >     > kind of the
>> >     > >> > >geo-libertarian
>> >     > >> > >ideal. But perhaps someone with more knowledge
>> >     > on this
>> >     > >> subject can
>> >     > >> > >confirm
>> >     > >> > >(or deny) this?

>> >     > >> >

>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> > some relevant literature on the topic of
>> >     > "managing the
>> >     > >> commons" was
>> >     > >> > written by Elinor Ostrom. FWIW she also won a
>> >     > nobel prize for it

>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> > ciao
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>> >     > >> --
>> >     > >> Thanks,

>> >     > >>
>> >     > >> Charlie

>> >     > >>
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>> >     >
>> >     > Charlie

>> >     >
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