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Author: Julia Tourianski
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
The entire thing has been shocking from the first day. Wish you guys could
be in the court with us. Nothing quite like watching it in person.
On Jan 15, 2015 6:51 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???> wrote:

> They're making a go of it.
> Before the PKK was seeking legal recognition for Kurds to be given a
> seat in the UN (de jure). But then in the 90s they increasingly adopted
> anti-state ideas and now they're more into making a confederation of
> autonomous cities/towns/regions, and operating decentralised as an
> independent nation (de facto). They're trying to create localised
> administration with staying power against central authorities.
>
> On 01/16/2015 12:41 AM, brian@??? wrote:
> > So is Rojava going to be a new country or what?
> >
> >
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From:
> >     "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>

> >
> >     To:
> >     <unsystem@???>
> >     Cc:

> >
> >     Sent:
> >     Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:25:12 +0100
> >     Subject:
> >     Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.

> >
> >
> >     goes to show that with 7 billion individuals, anything can happen. I
> was
> >     certain kobane was going to fall within a week and it's been months.
> >     whether this is true or not, it's another reminder to give me
> confidence
> >     in the power for individuals.

> >
> >     btw this is a crazy day:

> >
> >     * 3 people shot dead in belgian by anti-terror police.

> >
> >     * David Cameron seeks cooperation of US president over encryption
> >     crackdown:

> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/david-cameron-ask-us-barack-obama-help-tracking-islamist-extremists-online
> >     this comes after cameron's speech after the paris shootings about
> >     banning end to end encryption (making software like Darkwallet or
> >     OpenBazaar illegal):
> >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kqM0gn63M

> >
> >     * 2 italian girls captured in syria are freed after italian
> government
> >     pays a ransom of $12 million to the jihadis:

> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/two-italian-aid-workers-freed-syria
> >     here's the earlier article with their picture:

> >
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724701/Two-Italian-aid-workers-kidnapped-Islamist-militants-Syria-ignoring-parents-pleas-not-go.html
> >
> >     * Joint statement by the academic delegation who went to Rojava is
> >     released talking about their experience and describing the
> >     revolution there:
> >     http://roarmag.org/2015/01/statement-academic-delegation-rojava/

> >
> >     On 01/16/2015 12:12 AM, Mark Lamb wrote:
> >     > When everyone made the point that "This trial is going to be hugely
> >     > important for the history of the internet" I completely agreed with
> >     > them. This trial is absolutely vital. However I didn't think it
> could
> >     > possibly go well!! Seems like it's going positively so far?
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
> >     > <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>> wrote:

> >     >
> >     > I remember when they thought I was DPR, I was like "bitch please,
> >     > I'm not smart enough for that"

> >     >
> >     > On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Mark Lamb <markdavidlamb@???
> >     > <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>> wrote:

> >     >
> >     > You beat me to posting that quote!

> >     >
> >     > This is so bizarre...

> >     >
> >     > Fascinating trial to follow!

> >     >
> >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> >     > wrote:

> >     >
> >     > Myth and legend enters history,
> >     > The Story of Dread Pirate Roberts
> >     > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZGqBVBCRw>

> >     >

> >     >
> >     > On 01/15/2015 11:59 PM, Brian Hoffman wrote:
> >     > > Willy Bot Has now been implicated as DPR...

> >     > >
> >     > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
> >     <cshrem@???
> >     > > <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>> wrote:

> >     > >
> >     > >> Whoa!

> >     > >>
> >     > >> "Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered
> >     > >> silkroadmarket.org <http://silkroadmarket.org>
> >     > <http://silkroadmarket.org> as a means to publicize
> >     > >> the site further."

> >     > >>

> >     > >>

> >
> http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/
> >     > >>
> >     > >> On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
> >     > >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

> >     > >>
> >     > >> speechless

> >     > >>

> >     > >>

> >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sjuvu/defense_in_silk_road_trial_arguing_mark_karpeles/cnq7f3i
> >     > >>
> >     > >> On 01/15/2015 11:09 PM, Alicia Cruz wrote:
> >     > >> > whoa! plot twist! so karpeles is dpr!?

> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@???
> >     > >> <javascript:;>
> >     > >> > <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org <javascript:;>>> wrote:

> >     > >> >

> >     > >> >

> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > On 8 January 2015 13:32:53 CET, Aaron van Wirdum
> >     > >> > <aaronbitcoining@??? <javascript:;>
> >     > >> <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com <javascript:;>>> wrote:

> >     > >> >

> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > >As for the line drawn between private property and
> >     > >> resources, IIRC this
> >     > >> > >line is drawn at *natural* resources, hence,
> >     > kind of the
> >     > >> > >geo-libertarian
> >     > >> > >ideal. But perhaps someone with more knowledge
> >     > on this
> >     > >> subject can
> >     > >> > >confirm
> >     > >> > >(or deny) this?

> >     > >> >

> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > some relevant literature on the topic of
> >     > "managing the
> >     > >> commons" was
> >     > >> > written by Elinor Ostrom. FWIW she also won a
> >     > nobel prize for it

> >     > >> >
> >     > >> > ciao
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> >     > >>
> >     > >> --
> >     > >> Thanks,

> >     > >>
> >     > >> Charlie

> >     > >>
> >     > >> CharlieShrem.com <http://CharlieShrem.com> | /Please
> >     > //encrypt
> >     > >> messages with my PGP key <http://charlieshremcom/contact/>/

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> >     >

> >     >

> >     >
> >     > --
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> >     >
> >     > Charlie

> >     >
> >     > CharlieShrem.com <http://CharlieShrem.com> | /Please //encrypt
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> >     >

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