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Author: Gregory Smith
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To: Miles Fidelman
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Subject: Re: [Dng] 4chan's /g/ says you're never going to make it / amount to anything. Offered to help, was rejected
They sure know alot about "community guidelines" and
"professionalism", not engineering though. Their professionalism is
that learned from an office or a political campaign, not from anything
having to do with engineering.

And A-Patchy webserver had alot of hobbists from the start anyway.
Linux kernel certainly started as a hobby. Academics working on
something is alot different than cubical farm workers working on
something also. More like a hobby rather than what is around now.

Alot of the new developers just want to pad their CV, so they don't
want anyone politically incorrect around them in any project. It
wasn't like this in the recent past.

On 12/3/14, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@???> wrote:
> Gregory Smith wrote:
>> OSS has change alot.
>>
>> These days you are excluded if you do not toe some social-political line.
>> The word "professionalism" is bandied about.
>>
>> It used to be a hobby. People understood you were doing this for free.
>> The government was not involved. It was not on the radar.
>
> Now that is incredibly far from the truth. Mainstream OSS used to be
> people who developed for professional reasons, with most widely-used OSS
> starting as funded, or at least academic, projects. Sendmail, postfix,
> Apache, Unix, PostGress, the list goes on and on. Not an amateur or
> hobby effort in the lot. And a LOT of government funding - mostly from
> the US DoD, NSF, DoE, NASA, etc. (the same folks who brought us the
> Internet).
>
> NOW, we've seen an influx of folks without a clue about professional
> software engineering - and the result is not pretty. Lot's of bad code,
> poorly maintained, poorly documented.
>
> Miles Fidelman
>
>
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