Author: Linards Berzins Date: To: System undo crew Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Totalitarianism is simply the default state of the
client/server model
Great work Ben, cheers for shearing
On 25 March 2014 15:53, ben <colypse@???> wrote:
> If you need some proof that I have a steady hand:
> http://www.artflakes.com/en/s?search=ben+johansen >
>
> 2014-03-25 16:49 GMT+01:00 Linards Berzins <linardsberzins@???>
> :
>
>> hi everyone, my name is Linards and i follow this feed and read through
>> some amazing ideas.
>>
>> ping me if you need HTML Emails to create and dont have time to do it
>> yourself, I'll do it.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On 25 March 2014 15:42, ben <colypse@???> wrote:
>>
>>> I can draw logos. I do it oldschool style, but I can make them into
>>> bytes.. PM me on colypse@??? to give me more info about logos
>>> if needed.
>>>
>>> Peace
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-25 15:46 GMT+01:00 John Hebert <johnalexhebert@???>:
>>>
>>>> Jacob,
>>>>
>>>> This list is indirectly related to bitcoin and crypto stuff. Those are
>>>> tools for implementing some of the goals of unSYSTEM. The description of
>>>> the mailing list is "Revolutionaries on standby" (
>>>> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/unsystem). We
>>>> are a community, first and foremost, committed to making changes with
>>>> revolutionary impact.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, what this mailing list needs is more effort to
>>>> organize and make things happen instead of fluff opinion posts. We need
>>>> more doers instead of fluffers. We need more members to give their time,
>>>> effort and support to the goals of unSYSTEM. I forget the open source
>>>> developer who said "There is no substitute for source code.", but it is
>>>> excellent advice and extends to documentation, logos, planning, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I say we _need_ more doers, but I also think we shouldn't restrict
>>>> anyone from posting. It takes little effort to scan and delete a post from
>>>> an Inbox. If someone is repeatedly annoying, filter them. If enough mailing
>>>> list members create such filters, the poster will get the hint. Or, better
>>>> yet, the poster will _become_ a doer. If the poster is a good writer and
>>>> thinker, I recommend posting a blog link here with a short description.
>>>> Everyone would benefit from that. The mailing list admin can resolve the
>>>> worst cases of mailing list abuse, though I hope that won't be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> I'll hang out in irc.freenode.net:#darkwallet as huangpo99 and will
>>>> also follow the projects in github to determine how I can best use my
>>>> skills to contribute.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in the amazon
>>>>> and stonage man, know how to fish, please again this is about bitcoin and
>>>>> crypto stuff, so can the mod just delete the post,
>>>>> I was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core rants.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about
>>>>>> technology
>>>>>> then it is probably not a place for me.
>>>>>> I have some additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
>>>>>> socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@??? if
>>>>>> this thread is offensive then we can move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few thoughts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to the
>>>>>> conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me, I'm
>>>>>> not in
>>>>>> my best form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can
>>>>>> garner
>>>>>> the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better than I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society decided that
>>>>>> nomatter
>>>>>> what a great musician or artist you may be, you will be compelled to
>>>>>> attend
>>>>>> school and learn to read because the threat to democracy of an
>>>>>> illiterate
>>>>>> populous was too grave to accept. In this world with a computer on
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> desk and in every pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a
>>>>>> certain
>>>>>> level of understanding of these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to read
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would simply invent a
>>>>>> machine
>>>>>> to make people not need to know how to read. Forgiveness is deserved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the US,
>>>>>> barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open source
>>>>>> projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of designers, we
>>>>>> can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never
>>>>>> succeed
>>>>>> here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching 5-10 year
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> CS *history*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and
>>>>>> he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat and
>>>>>> drink
>>>>>> beer :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>>>>>> > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with
>>>>>> bitcoin...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written language of
>>>>>> the day
>>>>>> >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains
>>>>>> illiterate does
>>>>>> >> so by choice. "
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the
>>>>>> philosophical
>>>>>> >> grandfathers of the internet.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave it a
>>>>>> >> domain.
>>>>>> >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/ >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Caleb
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