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Author: Mihai Alisie
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Transferring btc-fiat using ssl logging and oracles
I just talked with Nejc from BitStamp and he says they didn't had any
problems with incoming deposits. Maybe it's BS or not -that- bad.

Cheers,
Mihai
On 22/11/13 21:05, Robert Williamson wrote:
> and TransferGo
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> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/
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> On 22 November 2013 20:00, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> wrote:
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>> Events are accelerating....
>> http://www.coindesk.com/dutch-bank-rabobank-blocks-bitcoin/ The most
>> blatant example I've seen yet. Blocking ALL attempts to fund at BTC
>> exchanges, if I read it right.
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>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> wrote:
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>>> Thanks for the responses. We'll be in Milan on the 2nd December. Looking
>>> forward to it.
>>> I just opened reddit and saw this, another example of the problems
>>> William describes (by the way, btc-e is not really new William!):
>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/
>>> We want people to be able to do peer to peer bank transfer with the
>>> possibility of proving they've done it, thus enabling trust.
>>>
>>> Our coding isn't finished; so far we've focused on that proof aspect,
>>> that part is finished and being tested with real bank examples (although
>>> far too few - if anyone wants to volunteer to try it, look at the
>>> instructions in my previous message),also we've got multisig code ready for
>>> the escrow of btc. The messaging part isn't finished. There's also the
>>> possibility of integration with OpenTransactions which dansmith is actively
>>> looking at right now.
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>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM, William Patterson <wpatterson1@???
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I also agree with Mathias, and have found a new project called BTC-E at
>>>> https://btc-e.com/ where you can buy BTC as well as other digitals for
>>>> much less than at Localbitcoins. But the achilles heel is still getting
>>>> funds into the project. Us guys here in the USA are shut out from nearly
>>>> all the e-currency exchangers by our oppressive over-reaching all-spying
>>>> government! Yea to anarchists like Amir Taaki and Cody Wilson, et al.
>>>> Viva Liberitad!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for listening,
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Mihai Alisie
>>>>
>>>> Sent: 11/21/13 09:26 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: System undo crew
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Transferring btc-fiat using ssl logging and
>>>> oracles
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Mathias. Also looking forward to hearing more about your
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mihai
>>>> On 22/11/13 03:22, Mathias Groennebaek wrote:
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>>>> Your project sounds very promising, exchanges are the achilles heel of
>>>> bitcoin, and in many cases the people who are most likely to pursue
>>>> regulatory compliance are people who run exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> Localbitcoins is a good project, but it lacks ease of use. Which is key.
>>>>
>>>> Would be interresting to hear more about.
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>>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> <ekaggata@???> wrote:
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>>>> Myself and dansmith on the BTC talk forum have been developing a system
>>>> for allowing people to buy BTC via bank accounts,OK Pay and others without
>>>> the need for trusting a third party, by making a verifiable record of the
>>>> ssl session, and using 2 of 3 multisig for dispute resolution. The project
>>>> is described in brief here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326233.msg3499434#msg3499434
>>>> and we already have "oracle" machines running for testing.
>>>>
>>>> Code is at https://github.com/themighty1/ssllog and other places.
>>>>
>>>> Detailed technical descriptions aren't really set up but you can see the
>>>> (completely rambling) development in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173220.msg3429555#msg3429555.
>>>>
>>>> Would people be interested in our coming to Milan to discuss it?
>>>> I realise (well I think I do) that the meetup/conference is not mostly
>>>> about this kind of thing, but I just thought there might be some interest.
>>>>
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