very busy, hard to keep up with email. both your explanations are
correct. imagine a poker table. if everyone's collaborating, then the
game is rigged. same with tor. you need at least 1 hop to be honest
for it to work. with mixing you need at least 1 other to be honest.
this is the basis for byzantine fault tolerance working (see the paper
about NFS).

On 31/10/13 12:45, Tristan Winters wrote:
> Yeah, I am hoping to do the same thing with our Australian
> Foundation. We may be far away, but we?ve got a kick-arse team.
>
> The more projects like this the better.
>
> I am pretty certain that Coin Punk funding is coming straight from
> the foundation. Bitcoin magazine ran an article about Coin Punk
> getting a grant from them.
>
> Anyway, did you get my email about the trustless mixer ??? I?m in a
> debate with a guy about it and I?d appreciate your feedback.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TW.
>
> On 31 Oct 2013, at 12:37 pm, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>
> his email: Kyle Drake <kyledrake@???
> <mailto:kyledrake@gmail.com>>
>
> I think we can provide people a credible alternative to help good
> projects we want to see thrive.
>
> On 31/10/13 12:34, Tristan Winters wrote:
>>>> Cool Video.
>>>>
>>>> But isn?t the "Coin Punk? wallet financed by the US
>>>> Foundation?
>>>>
>>>> TW.
>>>>
>>>> On 31 Oct 2013, at 9:05 am, Cody R Wilson
>>>> <codywilson@??? <mailto:codywilson@utexas.edu>
>>>> <mailto:codywilson@utexas.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trick or Treat, Western Civilization:
>>>>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bitcoin-dark-wallet/x/5141070
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
Render your contempt visible, your resistance invisible.
>>>>>
>>>>> /While hitherto all valuations and ideals have been built
>>>>> on ignorance of Bitcoin or in contradiction to it-
>>>>> therefore long live Bitcoin!/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:17 AM, jindq1 <jindq1@???
>>>>> <mailto:jindq1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Email is inefficient for much more than general updates.
>>>>> That's the gist of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Amir Taaki
>>>>> <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> but we are all here now with a collective voice, creating
>>>> projects, making a name and creative a voice for everyone.
>>>> what is openbitco.in <http://openbitco.in/> offering better?
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/13 04:50, jindq1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While I may not always feel like the people on this list
>>>> match my
>>>>> own personal opinions on economics, politics and
>>>>> technology, I'm here because I crave difference (it's how
>>>>> you learn about
>>>> yourself
>>>>> and the world afterall). That's why even if I hear a
>>>>> million
>>>> things
>>>>> I don't agree with, I won't ignore it, I'll either argue
>>>> with it or
>>>>> accept it. This has prompted me to take my own interests
>>>>> in learning, being productive and useful, and my disgust
>>>>> for corruption and hypocrisy and propose a new
>>>>> decentralized organization that puts the voice of people
>>>>> back into their own hands, and not a highly moderated forum
>>>>> or rich dude's.
>>>>
>>>>> * Original openbitco.in <http://openbitco.in/>
>>>> <http://openbitco.in <http://openbitco.in/>> proposal:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E-hLRcG0pejC4h02BCN_fdXJH3j9AAHziYZHivcmDbU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
* Current development site: http://openbitco.in
>>>> <http://openbitco.in/>
>>>>> * Other site features under construction and
>>>>> consideration:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajtx05YrHtIydGZFNzBZVTEtaldZXzNjUXRCZFc1RHc#gid=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
* Decentralized openbitco.in <http://openbitco.in/>
>>>> <http://openbitco.in <http://openbitco.in/>> forum proposal:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E-hLRcG0pejC4h02BCN_fdXJH3j9AAHziYZHivcmDbU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
* For more information or if you'd like to participate with the
>>>> other
>>>>> 30 members involved at the moment, PM me for the skype
>>>>> chatroom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd love your guys' opinion on it, even if it's "that will
>>>>> never work", because it would only be more fun for me when
>>>>> it does. :)
>>>>
>>>>> Hope everyone had fun at the Amsterdam conference we did
>>>>> last month, we're working on the next 2 and I can't wait to
>>>>> start the marketplaces up as OpenBitco.in!
>>>>
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Cody R. Wilson codywilson@???
>>>>> <mailto:codywilson@utexas.edu>
>>>>>
>>>>> The University of Texas School of Law Class of 2014
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