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Author: Robert Montante
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Keybinding problem [Re: Dng Digest, Vol 130, Issue 13]
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 08:13:46 -0400
From: Haines Brown <haines@???>
To: dng@???
Subject: [DNG] keybinding problem
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I have a CLI application for which keyboard input has unexpeted
resultd. When I type a leter it does not appear but somethig else
happens. My question is how to distinguish a bug in the application
from problems with my operating system (Devuan daelalus with no
desktop environment). Is there a way to test CLI keybiding?

The text-based applicaton is lifelines, which reads from and wrotes to
a GEDCOM datebase. I installed three slightly different versions of
the application and compiled one from source, although none are the
old version I used to use wihout problem. I have not been able to get
it.

This application presents fields in which to type input. In one
field, when I type a letter instead of appearing it seems instead to
remove the carriage return so that the next field becomes appended to
the field I'm working on. In anther field when I type a letter the
pointer simply jumps to the begining of the label of that field.

This occur in four different installations of Devuan, although all are
daedalus. It there any way I can determine in which direction I should
go?

--

     Haines Brown


Since it's a CLI application anyway, how about
"cat > /tmp/foo" , then type some stuff, end with a "ctrl-D" press, and
then look at the "/tmp/foo" file with your favorite editor.
If you see what you typed then the keyboard/driver is probably okay; if
it's wrong then suspect the keyboard.

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>    5. Re: Locations of servers? (Adrian Zaugg)

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 08:13:46 -0400
> From: Haines Brown <haines@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: [DNG] keybinding problem
> Message-ID: <aGu5-lxOWHCHibUN@???>
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> I have a CLI application for which keyboard input has unexpeted
> resultd. When I type a leter it does not appear but somethig else
> happens. My question is how to distinguish a bug in the application
> from problems with my operating system (Devuan daelalus with no
> desktop environment). Is there a way to test CLI keybiding?
>
> The text-based applicaton is lifelines, which reads from and wrotes to
> a GEDCOM datebase. I installed three slightly different versions of
> the application and compiled one from source, although none are the
> old version I used to use wihout problem. I have not been able to get
> it.
>
> This application presents fields in which to type input. In one
> field, when I type a letter instead of appearing it seems instead to
> remove the carriage return so that the next field becomes appended to
> the field I'm working on. In anther field when I type a letter the
> pointer simply jumps to the begining of the label of that field.
>
> This occur in four different installations of Devuan, although all are
> daedalus. It there any way I can determine in which direction I should
> go?
>
> --
>
>      Haines Brown

>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 13:43:58 +0100
> From: Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] keybinding problem
> Message-ID: <202507071343.58736.Antony.Stone@???>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Monday 07 July 2025 at 13:13:46, Haines Brown via Dng wrote:
>
> > I have a CLI application for which keyboard input has unexpeted
> > resultd. When I type a leter it does not appear but somethig else
> > happens.
>
> Based on the above sentences I have to ask whether your keyboard is
> actually
> working correctly at all.
>
> > This occur in four different installations of Devuan, although all are
> > daedalus. It there any way I can determine in which direction I should
> > go?
>
> I would:
>
> 1. Try the same application on Chimaera or even Beowulf.
>
> 2. Try typing your input into a console window, copy it from there, and
> then
> paste into the text fields; see whether any corruption occurs.
>
> 3. Try an on-screen keyboard instead of a hardware keyboard; see if the
> results are the same.
>
> 4. Contact the developer of the application to see whether:
>
> a) anyone else has reported something similar
>
> b) s/he can suggest a way to debug the problem (fairly likely, I suspect,
> given that you can compile it yourself from source)
>
>
> Antony.
>
> --
> I know I always wanted to be somebody, but I guess I should have been more
> specific.
>
>                                                    Please reply to the
> list;
>                                                          please *don't* CC
> me.

>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 20:44:38 +0200
> From: al3xu5 <dotcommon@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] keybinding problem
> Message-ID: <mailman.2.1751976001.25430.dng@???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Mon, 7 Jul 2025 08:13:46 -0400 - Haines Brown via Dng <dng@???
> >:
>
> > I have a CLI application for which keyboard input has unexpeted
> > resultd. When I type a leter it does not appear but somethig else
> > happens. My question is how to distinguish a bug in the application
> > from problems with my operating system (Devuan daelalus with no
> > desktop environment). Is there a way to test CLI keybiding?
> >
> > The text-based applicaton is lifelines, which reads from and wrotes to
> > a GEDCOM datebase. I installed three slightly different versions of
> > the application and compiled one from source, although none are the
> > old version I used to use wihout problem. I have not been able to get
> > it.
> >
> > This application presents fields in which to type input. In one
> > field, when I type a letter instead of appearing it seems instead to
> > remove the carriage return so that the next field becomes appended to
> > the field I'm working on. In anther field when I type a letter the
> > pointer simply jumps to the begining of the label of that field.
> >
> > This occur in four different installations of Devuan, although all are
> > daedalus. It there any way I can determine in which direction I should
> > go?
>
>
> If the application is https://lifelines.sourceforge.net/, then there is a
> CODESET section in the documantation:
> https://lifelines.sourceforge.net/manual.3.0.39/ll-userguide.html#AEN352
> Maybe the problem is related to characters encoding?
>
> Regards
> alexus
>
>
> --
> The only way humans have learned to survive brings them to extinction.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 09:43:11 +0100
> From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] keybinding problem
> Message-ID: <87o6tvax9c.fsf@???>
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> Haines Brown via Dng <dng@???> writes:
> > I have a CLI application for which keyboard input has unexpeted
> > resultd. When I type a leter it does not appear but somethig else
> > happens. My question is how to distinguish a bug in the application
> > from problems with my operating system (Devuan daelalus with no
> > desktop environment). Is there a way to test CLI keybiding?
>
> You could run the application under strace to see what input it's
> getting from the kernel.
>
> Another idea would be to log into a text console (ctrl-alt-f2 to
> ctrl-alt-f6 should bring you to one, you can use alt-f1 to get back to
> the X session) and run it from there to see if the behaviour is
> different.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 12:40:20 +0200
> From: Adrian Zaugg <devuan.org@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Locations of servers?
> Message-ID: <2483251.5ziPzQ2Z9G@haiash>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
> In der Nachricht vom Wednesday, 25 June 2025 18:52:30 CEST schrieb golinux
> via
> > Maybe this will help?
> >
> > http://deb.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt
>
> ...and to extract the mirrors that have DNSSEC support, use the following
> lines as a script:
>
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # get Devuan mirrors supporting DNSSEC
>
> MIRROR_LIST_URL="https://ftp.fau.de/devuan/mirror_list.txt"
> RESOLVER="9.9.9.9"
>
> while read -r mirror; do
>    if [ $(dig "$mirror" @"$RESOLVER" | grep "^;; flags:" | \
>           grep -c " ad[ ;]") -eq 1 ]; then
>       echo "$mirror"
>    fi
> done <<< $(wget -O - "$MIRROR_LIST_URL" 2>/dev/null | grep "^FQDN" | \
>            sed -e "s/^FQDN:  *//g")

>
>
>
> Regards, Adrian.
>
> --
>
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