On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:22:49 -0400, William wrote in message
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> RE:
> >>> ..deb etc package building info is not ready yet, AFAICT.
> >>>
> >>> ..both github and Red Hat are owned by Microsoft, sooooo,
> >>> I'd like to see some safer hosting, at least as back-ups.
>
> Correction:
> No, Red Hat is now owned by IBM, which is arguable almost as bad.

..thanks for the corrections and for agreeing. ;o)

> Not owned by Microsoft. And IBM has not trusted Microsoft since they
> were betrayed during the OS/2 development project.
>
> About X. I want to see X.ORG spun off by some team that has actual
> ethics and standards, and enough oomph to maintain the spin. No one
> person has that, and no team has stepped up to help in the last two
> decades.
>
> Frankly, X.ORG is so seriously complex and unmanageable at this point
> that few teams would WANT it! I know I do not.
>
> There are features of Xwindows (remember when that was the software
> name?) that I would like to see maintained that are not part of
> Wayland but ARE grandfathered into X.ORG. The remoting and networking
> features to allow remote clients to use X over network have no direct
> replacement. But I have doubts about this being the right way to
> move forward.
>
> Perhaps we need a new and different option. Perhaps something that
> supports the features in a secure way on TOP of X.ORG , Wayland, or
> Xlibre. Making it a separate piece avoids complicating the desktop
> code. I am open to new ideas.

..aye, starting from a one man show might help simplify things.

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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.