tldr; xenocara

On 6/11/25 22:22, William Peckham via Dng wrote:
> And IBM has not trusted Microsoft since they were betrayed during
> the OS/2 development project.

Correction to the correction ;) IBM /had not/ trusted them since the rug
pull regarding OS/2. But those were previous generations of IBM
leadership. The new IBM management has been enabling massive
infiltration and subversion of the company:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170226042932/https://www.talentful.co/
blog/2017/1/9/who-poached-who

IBM foolishly mistakes microsofters for "talent" and further have the
even more mistaken idea that such employees will work for IBM if only
IBM gets them onto the payroll. Here is a case in point:

https://newsroom.ibm.com/2025-04-29-ibm-launches-microsoft-practice-to-
deliver-transformative-business-value-for-clients

So while 'owned by Microsoft' is not technically correct, IBM has
allowed itself to become heavily influenced by to the point of control.

A new start, ie replacing X11, is needed for two reasons. First,
changing the X11 code base is apparently too difficult, is is said to be
in a state where it would be more appropriate to start over. Second,
apparently there is a long standing problem where events and data from
any window are accessible r/w from any of the other windows. I can't
find the link on that, but it was a big deal at the time but at the same
time so serious that public discussion was low key.

And then there are the heavy politics which have afflicted Wayland
development.

So, about the question of forking X11 and fixing some of the problems,
OpenBSD has a derivative called Xenocara.

https://xenocara.org/

Xenocara has been ported to Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre as of about two
years ago.

https://www.hyperbola.info/news/milky-way-v03-release/

It would be the code base to turn to, not that I have any skill with C
myself.

/Lars