Hendrik Boom said on Wed, 18 Jun 2025 17:16:16 -0400

>I found these pages reating to xorg and xlibre
>
> * [History repeats: Redhat censored me on freedesktop.org - Xlibre
> fork release coming in few
> days](https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2025-June/059396.html)
> * [xlibre: Discussion of the XLibre
> project](https://www.freelists.org/list/xlibre)
> * [So long Xorg, thanks for all the fish, hello
> XLibre?](https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/so-long-xorg-thanks-for-all-the-fish-hello-xlibre.98054/page-2)
> * [What does the DEI-free commitment
> mean?](https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/40#issuecomment-2954485906)
> *
> [Changes/X11Libre](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre) A
> proposal for replacing xorg with xlibrre in Fedora. It is probably
> informative for anyone trying to make a .deb version.

Can we please stop using the term "DEI"? Whatever it originally meant,
it's been co-opted by a (mainly American) subculture to be a swearword.

Just so we're all on the same page, "DEI" originally stood for
"Diversity, Equity and Inclusion". What's so bad about that?
Diversity's a pretty good thing in Free Software, so a project doesn't
consist of a bunch of yes men. Equality originally meant equal
opportunity, it never meant equal outcome. So equality means that
somebody who would ordinarily be sidelined can contribute to free
software. And Inclusion's a good thing so that somebody ready, willing
and able to contribute can do so without getting sidelined because of
their religion, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, color, or who
knows what other stupid dividing line.

To the extent that projects are promoting minority individuals over
seriously more qualified non-minorities, this is wrong. That being
said, I kind of enjoy seeing the majority walk a mile in the shoes
minorities have been walking in for the last several centuries.

Imagine yourself being a female geek who can reverse engineer a new
video card and write a driver for it. You join a project of 95% men,
and find guys cracking sex jokes, comparing womens' body parts, etc.
There are enough reports of geek women getting groped at expos that I
believe it. Heck, life would be much easier giving your time to
Microsoft, so although you're more "meritous" than 95% of the men in
the project, you don't put up with the shit and instead work for
Microsoft, and maybe even speak badly of Free Software, all because so
many geeks rail against DEI and CoCs.

Let's talk about CoCs. Every single mailing list and project on earth
has a CoC. I guarantee you, I could get myself kicked off of any
mailing list, no matter how "permissive". So the only question is this:
Is the CoC:

1) Written law, so everyone knows how to behave?

2) Enforced by the top guy, so if you annoy him in any way you're gone?

3) Enforced by the mob, meaning you get cancelled if someone starts a
campaign against you?

Of those three, I sure prefer #1.

Here's GoLUG's CoC, which at one time was written:

1) No personal insults toward other list members.

2) No insults about groups of people unless the insults are related to
technology (Insulting systemd, sans-system, and Microsoft are fine)

3) No sabotaging the core mission of GoLUG: Don't insult Linux there.

4) Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

#4 is kind of subjective, but I think it serves well as a guide.

If you look at my past posts, the only time I violated #1 on DNG was
when the person I was responding to had violated #3 (John Hughes, for
instance). In general, to avoid my insulting people further, I set my
procmail to send their messages to /dev/null after that.

SteveT

Steve Litt

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