On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:37:26 -0400, Dan wrote in message
<20250605173726.GA12136@???>:

> On Jun 05, 2025, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > Sorry, this is a bit off topic: I'm looking for advice on a
> > particular problem, and am hoping that someone in the group has
> > faced it themselves.
> >
> > I need to move the domain on which my principal email address is
> > defined (pwduffy.org.uk) to a new provider. The reason is that my
> > current provider's email server is constantly getting blacklisted by
> > antispam agencies (another of the provider's customers is
> > apparently an incorrigible spammer) - and this is apparently
> > resulting in my outgoing emails often ending up in recipients' spam
> > folders, or not arriving at all. (I've just discovered that a
> > really important email that I sent a few weeks ago didn't arrive,
> > and it's resulted in massive problems: I should have followed it up
> > when the recipient didn't reply, but unfortunately failed to do so.)
> >
> > The main thing that I'm worried about is the disruption whilst the
> > domain is in the process of being transferred, and particularly of
> > incoming emails bouncing, and the senders flagging up my address as
> > non-existent (for example - I'm anticipating having to resign
> > temporarily from this list, and from others to which I've
> > subscribed, and then rejoin when the email's working via the new
> > provider). It's a massive faff, and I've been literally putting it
> > off for years - but after the latest incident, I really need to
> > bite the bullet.
> >
> > Has anyone been through the experience of having to move a domain on
> > which an important email address is defined? It would be useful to
> > know the process which was followed, and any particular pitfalls and
> > workarounds.
>
> Shouldn't need to do all the "unsub, wait, resub" stuff. I run my own
> email service, rather than relying on my registrar; but I did recently
> (within the last 5 years) swap everything over to Linode.
>
> Process was pretty much
>
> 1. Sign up with the new provider (Linode for me)
> 2. Add their details to your DNS as a SECONDARY MX
> 3. Verify outgoing (SPF, DKIM, etc.)
> 4. Swap the MX hosts so the new provider is the primary
> 5. Verify incoming goes there now
> 6. Remove other MX entry / cancel service with first host.
>
> NOTE: Obviously don't cancel the *DOMAIN*, just the "extra" email
> account service they're providing.
>
> Granted, if your registrar doesn't let you configure DNS entries,
> things get a little more "fun"

..my lazy setup is buy a personal dns domain, park it at some
web site hosting company, they usually offer web mail services
too, I then use fetchmail and procmail to fetch my incoming mail
off "my" web mail server into my Maildir tree, for outgoing mail
like this very mail list post, I simply point my MUA (Claws Mail
these days) to "my" (SMTP) web mail server. It works so damned
nice I haven't gotten around to do it the proper way. ;o)

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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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best case, worst case, and just in case.