Yes, I thought that as well - particularly when I read the zutty FAQ,
with all the pitfalls of running it: it shouldn't even have been
installed, let alone set as the default terminal application.
I used the netinstall iso, written to a USB stick. I took the defaults
for the software selection, with the one exception of including the ssh
server (I always include that).
On Sat, 2025-04-19 at 08:23 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> It's more than odd to find zutty being installed, but if it is
> installed it will be installed last, and therefore it will place
> itself as default choice with update-alterantivs.
>
> Nothing depends on zutty so it's hard to see it being pulled in by
> the
> daedalus installer iso. Which installer do you use?
>
> Ralph.
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 09:46:30PM +0100, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > I'm trying to establish that at the moment.
> >
> > I installed Debian Bookworm into a virtualbox VM, selecting xfce as
> > the
> > desktop (overriding the default, which was Gnome), and then ran
> > "update-alternatives -config x-terminal-emulator". It was set to
> > use
> > /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper. zutty wasn't installed. I tried
> > installing it just to see if it worked, and if it automatically
> > configured x-terminal-emulator to point to itself. It did work, and
> > it
> > didn't reconfigure x-terminal-emulator.
> >
> > So - based on that, it would seem that this is specific to devuan
> > daedalus - at least at the time that I installed it earlier today.
> >
> > I'm currently doing a new test install of daedalus into another
> > virtualbox VM. At the moment, I'm thinking that this must have been
> > a
> > recent error, and maybe has been corrected upstream by now - and if
> > so,
> > maybe by now it's percolated into the devuan repos. (I think it
> > would
> > only be noticeable if someone installed daedalus onto old hardware,
> > or
> > if they noticed that the fonts looked a bit weird. I'm not sure - I
> > haven't delved into what's actually behind the zutty error as yet.)
> >
> > More once I've finished the new test install.
> >
> > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 16:31 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 05:43:48PM +0100, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > > > Bingo.
> > > >
> > > > https://tomscii.sig7.se/zutty/wiki/FAQ.html
> > > >
> > > > "Your graphics hardware or driver is not sufficient, you need
> > > > support
> > > > for GLSL ES 3.1 or better"
> > > >
> > > > Think I might just avoid zutty for the foreseeable future.
> > > >
> > > > The decision to default x-terminal-emulator to a program which
> > > > depends
> > > > on specific levels of graphics hardware/software seems somewhat
> > > > rash,
> > > > to put it very mildly indeed. In fact, it seems positively
> > > > unbelievable.
> > >
> > > So is this an upstream issue that should really be solved in
> > > Debian?
> > >
> > > -- hendrik
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