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Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:03:00 +0100 - marc <marcxdv@???>:

> > These days, it makes sense for everything I write to have a web interface.
> > Most of our compiled and interpretive languages run everywhere as long as
> > you don't start working with the native GUI, and there's no need to port a
> > web-based GUI. There aren't any facilities that we would expect on a
> > native GUI and are missing from the web these days.
>
> Hello
>
> So I am taking the exact opposite position. And you can quote me on that:
>
> "Don't include a web browser in your dependencies if you write in free
> software." - me
>
> The web is being encircled and captured by commercial interests.
>
> Significant distributions with substantial technical skills (including
> alpine and iirc nix/guix ?) have struggled to build, nevermind ship,
> firefox binaries.
>
> Some may call these edge cases, but I think it is a sign of what is to
> come - that the "modern" web will only be available on a few platforms,
> with weaponised complexity excluding the rest. One suspects the next tooth
> on the ratchet will exclude open hardware for being far too "insecure" and
> insufficiently DRMed to host something as important as a browser which
> can access online banking.
>
> Game theorists might notice a defect versus co-operate pattern here: If
> everybody defects to the convenient choice of a web then we'll all
> be stuck in the surveilled and ad-infested worst case.
>
> Sort of related thoughts on this can be found at
> https://scottrichmond.me/the-web-is-too-big/
>
> So please do use small, exotic or long forgotten gui toolkits.
> As long as their dependency graph isn't too crazy either.
>
> regards
>
> marc


Hi marc,

I totally agree with you.

Regards
alexus


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