dns over https goes to either google or cloudflare. google and cloudflare share information

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> On Nov 9, 2023, at 3:30 PM, o1bigtenor via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 12:18 PM Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 06:26:16AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 6:44 PM tempforever <dev1@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>>>>> I was using a program called 'Libby' to read a book whilst I was eating lunch.
>>>>> Page freezes and firefox-esr is totally unresponsive.
>>>>> Try some other tabs (ones I use a lot) to see if I could get connectivity.
>>>>> Nothing wants to connect just see various bluto graphics to tell you
>>>>> that its hunting a connection.
>>>>> (Tried likely 1/2 dozen different tabs just in case it was the other
>>>>> end that was the issue.)
>>>>> Checked with each of the other 4 browsers and each one could connect
>>>>> to at least one outside site and 'work'.
>>>>> After about 23 or 24 minutes firefox-esr is now connecting again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anyone out there that has any idea what might have caused my
>>>>> service interruption?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Kind of a shot-in-the-dark, but do you have DNS over HTTPS enabled in
>>>> firefox? If so, perhaps there was a temporary problem connecting to
>>>> their DoH server. At least, that could explain why firefox stopped
>>>> working while other browsers did work.
>>>>
>>> I was not aware that this was a 'feature'! (Sorry for the sarcasm - - - its not
>>> for 'you'.)
>>
>> It's to keep your ISP from spying on your DNS requests.
>> f course, it eans that whoever gets the DNS-over-HTTPS requests can spy on you themselves.
>>
>>> That would make sense then - - - haven't heard nothing yet from my ISP
>>> and don't expect to. To me - - - quite obviously they don't know that much
>>> and even better don't give a rip.
>>
>> If they know anything, it'll be that you no longer seem to be using DNS as much.
>> Programs other then the browser will still be using DNS directly.
>>
>>>
>>> How would one test to see if that was the issue?
>>>
>>
>> I'd look in the browser options (there are oodles of them) and see if any of them provide FND over https, and change the obvious setting.
>>
>> -
>
> Thank you
> I'm in the process of moving to using opnsense for a router.
> That is one of the planned changes - - - I think I want to move to a
> local DNS but am looking at connecting to plan 9 for assistance.
>
> Any suggestions in this area?
>
> TIA
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