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Author: Mario Marietto
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To: Didier Kryn
CC: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf / armel for my Samsung / Google Chromebook model XE303C12 "Snow" ?
----> I doubt you can do anything without an armhf kernel. Because what
debootstrap --second stage does is run dpkg on the target arch, to install
the downloaded packages and then apt-get install a minimal OS. And all this
is made by executables meant to be run by an armhf cpu, obviously.

yeah,it works like this with qemu-debootstrap. there isn't any 2 stage. the
os is configured totally on the first stage.

----> Could you remind us why you don't install a ready-made armhf image?

Please elaborate more.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 3:41 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@???>
wrote:

> ---> This means you must install an armhf kernel under your qemu virtual
> machine; and this virtual machine will then execute the binaries downloaded
> by debootstrap's first stage
>
> ok. Thanks for explaining to me what happens under the hood. In the end
> qemu-debootstrap does all that is needed to run as I want. I would like to
> try to run qemu-deboostrap instead of debootstrap. Can you explain to me
> how to do that ? I don't want to install beowulf to have its functionality.
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:19 PM Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>
>> Le 21/06/2023 à 13:55, Mario Marietto a écrit :
>> > ---> The principle is that the executable downlaoded by the first
>> > stage of debootstrap is not executable by the x86, but by the armhf.
>> >
>> > it does not work like this if qemu-debootstrap is used. I've posted
>> > two tutorials that show that it works like this. Even me,after the
>> > first stage of the bootstrapping,I configure the rest of the os
>> > (armhf) directly on my PC x64 bit. There is even no need for a second
>> > stage. What I don't understand is why the chimaera version removed
>> > qemu-debootstrap and it forces users to have an arm board to finish
>> > the setup. It does not even try to run debootstrap. On the screen I
>> > see that the executable bootstrap is executed,instead. But,on the
>> > previous version of devuan,called beowulf it works exactly like I have
>> > explained. It does the first stage and the second stage on the X64 pc
>> > running the command qemu-debootstrap and not the command bootstrap.
>>
>>      Sorry, I didn't read your tutorials. Here is the intention of
>> quemu: emulate the instruction set of a foreign architecture. This means
>> you must install an armhf kernel under your qemu virtual machine; and
>> this virtual machine will then execute the binaries downladed by
>> debootstrap's first stage. I doubt you can do anything without an armhf
>> kernel. Because what debootstrap --second stage does is run dpkg on the
>> target arch, to install the downloaded packages and then apt-get install
>> a minimal OS. And all this is made by executabes meant to be run by an
>> armhf cpu, obviously.

>>
>>      Couls you remind us why you don't install a ready-made armhf image?

>>
>> --     Didier

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>
> --
> Mario.
>



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