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Author: Boian Bonev
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Conversion from BullsEye to Devuan Fails
Hello,

See my answer inline below.

On Tue, 2021-12-07 at 08:05 -0600, Kent West via Dng wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Following the instructions
> at https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera
>
> I've tried it on two VirtualBox VMs (one two different Debian host boxes - a
> Dell desktop and a Dell laptop). Both VMs were minimal Debian installs.
>
> I commented out all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and added the
> following as the only lines in the file:
>
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main
> #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main
>
> Then I ran
>
> # apt-get update --allow-insecure-repositories
>
> which generated a dozen or so warnings/errors, which I assume is normal for
> the process, so I ignored them.
>
> Then I ran
>
> # apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated
>
> which generated a warning or two in the process. But the process appeared to
> complete properly.
>
> Then I did
>
> # apt-get update
>
> which installed a few things, and appeared to complete properly.
>
> Then I did
>
> # apt-get upgrade
>
> which insisted I type in the phrase, "Yes, do as I say!". This generated
> warnings/errors about too many errors processing systemd.
>
> The next step,
>
> # apt-get install eudev


I think that adding sysvinit-core here will make it work. I will propose
changing the document to include that.

Also there are several conversion scripts that do the whole thing, but I
haven't tested those after bullseye was released and used these instructions
instead with sysvinit-core added. As a side note I never did convert a desktop
system - only servers...

With best regards,
b.

>
> installed "openntpd" and then generated a warning that there is no init
> system and policy-rc.d missing.
>
> The next step, the command to "reboot", resulted with "-bash: reboot: command
> not found". Furthermore, the "shutdown" command can not be found. The only
> way I could find to reboot was to do a VM reset.
>
> On reboot, there were messages about recovering the journal and clearing
> orphaned inodes, then:
>
> run-init: can't execute '/sbin/init': No such file or directory
> Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init.
> run-init: can't execute (/sbin/init, /etc/init/, /bin/init): No such file or
> directory
> /bin/sh: 0: can't access tty; job control turned off
>
> The next step
>
> # apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> failed, partly because the file system is mounted read-only. Although I can
> remount it as read-write, whatever is broken with the system is broken, and
> the rest of these instructions aren't going to work. You just run into the
> next problem (non-working network). This, too, can be fixed, but then you run
> into another problem. Etc.
>
>
> TL;DR - The conversion instructions don't work with Debian Bullseye 11.1, at
> least not on minimal Debian VMs using VirtualBox on Debian, for me.
>
> I can just wipe these two VMs and start from scratch, no problem. But thought
> whoever wrote that conversion page might need to know my experience.
>
>
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