Author: Marc Shapiro Date: To: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] [OT] historical note
On 6/17/21 4:59 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:02:35 -0400
> Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 01:29:12PM -0700, Patrick Bartek via Dng
>> wrote: ...
>> ...
>>> Jessie was the first Debian version to use systemd by default as
>>> the init. Perhaps, something was installed as a systemd dependency
>>> that wouldn't have been installed with the new Beowulf computer
>>> under sysvinit that carried forward with a dist-upgrade of Jessie to
>>> Beowulf. Or you installed something on the old system that wasn't
>>> installed on the new one, and that is doing the automounting.
>> Historical note.
>>
>> And the first Devuan release was called Jessie because it was almost
>> identical to the Debian release with the same name -- it differed
>> primarily in that it did not use systemd as an init. This was the
>> last Debian relese that had no problems running without systemd.
> I run Debian Stretch with sysvinit without problems even though some
> systemd libraries and udev-systemd remained after converting to
> sysvinit. Even updates-upgrades don't result in systemd-init being
> reinstalled like with Buster.
>
> B
I ran Debian from Bo through Stretch. I had no real problems upgrading
through the releases until I got to Buster. Then I hit a wall. It MAY
be possible to run a very minimal system (with no chance of running X)
and still avoid systemd. While I have been told that this is the case,
I have no personal evidence of this.